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New Honda Accord a major step backwards - and that's a good thing!
TechnoFile ^ | December 7, 2017 | Jim Bray

Posted on 12/08/2017 6:14:07 AM PST by gymbeau

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To: libh8er

I wouldn’t have agreed with you about some past generations, but the new Camry is definitely better than the new Accord.


21 posted on 12/08/2017 6:52:29 AM PST by gymbeau (America...great again!)
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To: newfreep

RE-intro the coupe and add the v-6 back (preferably with a twin turbo like the can rattler 4 bangers) and you will have a real car.


22 posted on 12/08/2017 6:52:41 AM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: AppyPappy

The RL is a very nice car, though the trunk’s a tad tight.


23 posted on 12/08/2017 6:53:14 AM PST by gymbeau (America...great again!)
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To: Spok

10 years too new. my 86 Accord made it to 320k miles before I sold it. It never gave me a stitch of issues. Even the lights worked perfectly.

And it was a 2 door hatch. I would love to find another.

But on the main topic, the transmission has no lever at all ? Oh, this is Anton Yelchin all over again.


24 posted on 12/08/2017 6:54:12 AM PST by Celerity
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To: Vinnie

I’ve had the same impression of turbos, though no real evidence and I’ve never owned one. VW and Porsche have been using turbos forever, though, and seem to have success.

I’d rather have a normally-aspirated V6 like in my Audi A4 than a turbo four; that said, today’s turbo fours (and turbo sixes) are boasting some impressive performance.


25 posted on 12/08/2017 6:54:47 AM PST by gymbeau (America...great again!)
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To: Celerity

Yeah, Honda’s new gear selector thingy is really dumb. Doesn’t even save space on the console.


26 posted on 12/08/2017 6:56:27 AM PST by gymbeau (America...great again!)
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To: gymbeau

So how bodies can you fit in the trunk?

Asking for a friend.

I need a good traveling car around $11k. Looking at a Milan/Fusion/MKZ or an Escape. AWD is a must. The Lincoln MKS with Ecoboost was too fast. The RL is just a really good deal at a local Tote-the-Note.


27 posted on 12/08/2017 6:57:01 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: gymbeau

BMW uses that.


28 posted on 12/08/2017 6:57:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Spok
I drive a 1996 Accord. I replaced the engine. 280k miles and going strong. I could afford a new one but why?

Last year I made my Mom get rid of her 1985 Accord. The carburetor was starting to go and I couldn't find the correct sized tires for it.

Yup it had a carburetor.

29 posted on 12/08/2017 7:02:01 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: minnesota_bound
My 2017 Honda Ridgeline does something similar. There's a youtube video that shows how to stop that. I didn't and don't have the video anymore. Anyway, look around.

Maybe get some ideas by looking here.

30 posted on 12/08/2017 7:03:14 AM PST by blam
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To: gymbeau

Soichiro Honda passed away in 1991.

They have made some bulletproof Hondas since that day.

Ito was a disaster for Honda and, due to his policies, many excellent engineers left the company for a better environment.

Since his departure Honda Executives are bringing Honda back to it’s former self.

Do I put my money where my (written) mouth is?

Yes. We love our 2016 Pilot and I’m considering replacing my 2007 Ridgeline with a 2018 Ridgeline. If not next year then in 2019.


31 posted on 12/08/2017 7:19:08 AM PST by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: AppyPappy

Probably plenty. It’s just a little small compared to some competitors, with a bit of a small opening.

If you can find a good Audi A4, that could fit your bill, too. I have a 2005 Avant (wagon) and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. I don’t drive it a lot, though, so that undoubtedly helps keep it in top shape.


32 posted on 12/08/2017 7:19:49 AM PST by gymbeau (America...great again!)
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To: BBB333

Love my 2013 Ridgeline.


33 posted on 12/08/2017 7:26:02 AM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God did help the Republic, can we keep it.)
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To: minnesota_bound

My Honda’s have a “programmable” computer driven “Auto Door Lock” feature, yours may as well. If the programming sequence can’t be found buried deep inside your owners manual, you may need to do a bit of web surfing to find the correct programming sequence. It’s completely non-intuitive, here’s an example I found for a similar Accord:

https://www.justanswer.com/honda/3l9i4-just-bought-200

Good Luck.


34 posted on 12/08/2017 7:28:06 AM PST by NYAmerican
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To: BBB333

Wow, I didn’t realize he’s been gone that long! Thanks for that.
Hondas are still great cars, and bulletproof as you say. But they’re ugly and annoying and exessively complex. I miss the “Honda, we make it simple” days.


35 posted on 12/08/2017 7:28:56 AM PST by gymbeau (America...great again!)
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To: Vinnie

My second car was a 84 Chrysler Laser XE Turbo, I got it as a teenager. I could not kill that car. I drove it like I hated it... because I loved it.

I distinctly remember the manual said nothing against towing, except not to exceed the limits, which was low, since it was a K car frame.

Turbochargers have pressurized oil lubrication, and the Chryslers went a next step and added water cooling to the journal bearing as well. You could run full boost till the cows came home, or the motor failed (not the turbo).

Notice the Turbo I 2.2L from that era was technically a pull through system, since the compressor was behind the throttle blade (it was port injected, so the compressor was not wet). That means there was some special seals in the journal bearings to keep suction from pulling oil out of the journal bearing.

Honestly, todays turbos are so far advanced, you can’t really tell they are turbo. They just feel like really strong motors. Back then, you were on boost or off boost, and the transition usually caused loss of traction if you were really getting up the road.

And remember, even then in the 1980’s, no serious semi truck lacked a turbocharger. Those diesels ran boost at highway speed, meaning the turbocharger was always loaded.

What has changed since those days is computational fluid dynamics simulations to improve response, and reduction of inertia in the turbo’s rotating assembly. Combine that with fast microporocessors, and lag has basically vanished...


36 posted on 12/08/2017 7:29:48 AM PST by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: gymbeau
People complaining about ugly modern Hondas have short memories.


37 posted on 12/08/2017 7:34:32 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: gymbeau

I put very few miles on a vehicle. I’ve shied away from Audi’s because of their reputation for expensive parts but I’ll add it to my search


38 posted on 12/08/2017 7:35:01 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: gymbeau

I drive an 03 Acura TL that I completely redid with 189,000 miles that I bought as cheap transport to get back and forth to the mfg. plant 40 miles away, i’ll be looking for a newer one.


39 posted on 12/08/2017 7:37:40 AM PST by heshtesh
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To: gymbeau

CVT’s suck so bad. Especially in underpowered cars like the Outback.

Now talk about ugly POS, let’s talk Prius. They should be called Passus. I pass a half dozen per day, and what’s with those new Tail Lights?


40 posted on 12/08/2017 7:37:43 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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