Posted on 01/22/2018 11:58:19 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
What happened today (and what continues to happen with the Trump administration) is greater than WW2 or 9/11.
President Trump has been the one that changed the way Washington does business since forever ....... forever.
Assume each of those 50,000 has two parents (+100,000). That's now 150,000.
Assume that each set of parents has two more children (+100,000). That's now 250,000.
Assume that each child is married and brings over a spouse (+150,000). That's now 400,000.
Assume that each spouse brings over two parents (+300,000). That's now 700,000.
Assume that each set of spousal parents has two more children (+300,000). That's now 1,000,000.
Assume that each spousal parents' other children are married (+300,000). That's now 1,300,000.
Assume that each spousal parents other children's spouses have two parents (+600,000). That's now 1,900,000.
The 50,000 has just chain migrated another 1,850,000 people. And the chain still goes on...
-PJ
THANKFULLY Trump is smart enough to understand that, as the article says, the REAL WAR is over Chain Migration, which is why the Democrats were DESPERATE to get it off the table by calling it racist (quite an imagination on their side)...the Dems know if they lose on Chain Migration, then nothing else matters, the country will turn more and more red...and so they won’t concede an inch on it - they may not win, but they WILL NOT let the Republicans fix Chain Migration, not at this point.
The risk with the shutdown is that they were going to lose a LOT of Senate seats if it continued...possibly enough to allow Trump to finally fix Chain Migration next year - so they had to cut their losses. Chain Migration is DO OR DIE for them. The Wall is nothing, DACA is nothing, the Visa Lottery is minor, but Chain Migration is EVERYTHING.
Sure would be nice if we had more than 4-5 Senators on our side
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Ms Gramnisty will get right on it.
“And once Trump uses the veto, this becomes his shutdown and not Schumer’s.”
I didn’t see where it said a clean bill for DACA will be done before the budget.
...as long as it contains "the wall"—a provision that the Democrats find unacceptable.
Why did you leave out that key point?
We've already been through this Trump-bashing second-guessing.
President "Trump" said this in order to get the Dems to show their hands—and it worked. The fact is, the Democrats aren't going to support "the wall", so they're very unlikely to have a lot of say in the bill that the Republican majority ends up passing—which must include the wall.
Is there some reason you're opting for the Propaganda Media's spin on these events? Because it seems like hand-wringing—hand-wringing which the President has shown is uncalled for, after doing a superb job of governing for an entire year at this point.
Whatever "POS" comes out of Congress will have to do so from two chambers that are both controlled by GOP majorities.
The President is the Chief Executive, not the Legislature...
Balderdash. The GOP knows that chain migration and lotteries are bad for the country and the party, and in need of reform.
The President doesn't want to sign legislation that won't work—that won't make him look good—so he will exert enough influence such that decent reform in these areas will be included.
The President likes to win, in case you haven't noticed. And you don't win by passing crappy laws that don't address the problems they're supposed to solve. If immigration reform is half as decent as the tax cuts, it'll be a yuge improvement. Any amnesty—as "Hostage" correctly pointed out—will be extremely limited, and indeed will be used as leverage to ensure an end to chain immigration and lotteries.
But go ahead and tell us all that the sky is falling if you like. Such hysterical predictions have been proven wrong for a solid year now, and I, for one, will give the President the benefit of the doubt—something he has earned a dozen times over at this point.
It will not pass in the House.
I trust President Trump—unlike you, apparently.
I base that trust not on pearl-clutching skepticism, but rather on a solid year of stellar leadership—a year during which there was a crowd of hand-wringers second-guessing the President at every juncture, telling us all how he would betray us by acceding to Congressional shenanigans.
Therefore, I'm going to give the President the benefit of the doubt—based on the accumulated evidence—before expending negative energy breathlessly predicting the opposite of what I've seen with my own eyes for the past twelve months straight.
Congress knows the parameters of what President Trump wants, and by the time any comprehensive immigration bill reaches his desk, it will conform—to a significant degree—to the Chief Executive's expectations...
I think you underestimate how many voters are angered by militant illegal alien activists trying to hijack our country.
You might want to look closer as the voting patterns of Asians.
That’s exaggerated. No one has said more people have come since 1991 from the diversity lottery than the wall. People didn’t even know about it until the NYC terrorist attack.
Sure, not all lottery winners will be married. Not all parents are still alive. Not all families have three children. Not all immigrants will migrate their entire left-behind family. But these are reasonable assumptions for predicting an upper limit.
It's simply assuming that each lotter winner will bring over his/her spouse, his parents, brothers and sisters, his spouses parents, brothers, and sisters, and his and her spouse's brother's and sister's spouses and children.
That's how chain migration works, although it could take a decade for a chain migration to complete.
-PJ
You are right, but there are caps. The illegals who cross the border can’t vote and the chain migration immigrants can’t. The illegals who cross the border is a higher number.
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