Posted on 02/01/2018 2:38:43 PM PST by Texas Fossil
Mutlu Civiroglu @mutludc
YPJ fighter Barin Kobani whose body was mutilated by Turkish-backed forces in Qurna village of Bilbil in #Afrin
Remember both ISIS and al Qaeda fighters are now part of the FSA Turkish Militia who invaded Efrin, Syria
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Rojava; @AzadiRojava
https://twitter.com/AzadiRojava/status/959150351894147072
YPJ heroine Barîn Kobane defended her homeland Efrîn from invading Al Qaeda Mercenaries & your ally Turkey. They got her. They mutilated & dismembered her body. Don’t condone these warcrimes. Break your silence @theresa_may @EmmanuelMacron @sigmargabriel @HalbeZijlstra
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Jenan Moussa; @jenanmoussa
https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/959151218680631297
There’s also another video going viral which is too graphic to share. But I’ll try to describe it. Basically Syrian rebels near Afrin killed a Kurdish female fighter, took off her clothes, chopped off her breasts, stepped on her body &discussed whether she was beautiful or not.
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Zohra Cizîr; @Z_Cizir
https://twitter.com/Z_Cizir/status/959100672561090560
Which f*cking bastard called Avesta Xebur, who carried out an action of self-sacrifice against Turkish forces and its jihadi allies, a suicide-bomber??? Watch this video, see what Turkey and its f*cking allies do, when they catch you alive!
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#EfrinNotAlone @Cakila_
https://twitter.com/Cakila_/status/959094435668811777
SOHR has obtained a video footage of Qaeda Jihadist backed by Turkish army stripping naked the torso of the corpse of a female YPJ fighter and mutilated her, removing her body parts and burning her @statedeptspox @marcorubio @jeremycorbyn
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Also Remember, what country routinely bombs graveyards to defile the resting place of the dead? TURKEY.
NATO? Your call.
NATO is complicit in this atrocity. There’s simply no escaping that fact.
The U.S. needs to be out of NATO altogether.
The liberals a still made and clamoring that Trump is being unfair by not letting certain people into the U.S. Those are the kind of people the U.S. DOES NOT NEED OR WANT.
Until this happens on our soil, the libs will keep pushing to allow those animals in.
Alright let’s go Trump and Matt is, don’t take any of this junk from Turkey, this ain’t right. Why does our government always seem to back nut-cases?
Turkey was in NATO since 1952.
My Kurd friends told me today, it’s over. That the US government now calls them terrorists. YPG is now considered PKK like Erdogan tries to say.
We evidently will set on our hands.
Some think another civil war comes in Turkey, hard to imagine.
We came so far, but they say it dies in Efrin.
I’m totally sick today. But this is personal for me. Some here already new that.
Turkey is employing many of the selfsame jihadi terrorists that we have been seeking to annihilate, including former ISIS fighters.
These types of sick war crimes and atrocities show clearly why these extremists need to be killed on the battlefield - so many of them are beyond rehabilitation. Brainwashed and drug-addled, they have given themselves over to twisted bloodlust. They can’t be trusted to run lose in society.
“My Kurd friends told me today, it’s over.”
What is over?
That the Kurds were betrayed by US.
That (probably State Dept.) classified YPG terrorists.
They have been trying to tell me that for a couple of days.
Had to do with reports related to state department document.
I have link and passage, but it did not read like that to me.
I’ll have to search for the link.
The document was a CIA document, but classification came from State Department from what I read.
Here is the link:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sy.html
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“Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) (Kongra-Gel):
aim(s): establish Kurdistan, which comprises territory in northern Syria
area(s) of operation: operational in the north combating ISIL, primarily in the Kurdish-populated region known as Rojava and Syrian Kurdistan; Salih MUSLIM Muhammad leads Kurdistan Workers Party’s Syrian wing, the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD); majority of fighters inside Syria are Syrian Kurds, along with Kurds from Iran, Turkey, and Iraq”
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Issue is designation of PYD as arm of PKK. PYD is political portion of YPG.
The mention in the CIA World Factbook is not an official designation.
The World Factbook is an unclassified public document, provided for initial familiarization with an area. It is an informal informational resource, a step up in reliability from Wikipedia. Contractors compile and periodically review it for CIA.
Believe me, it does not commit the US Government to any policy position.
The State Department or the White House are the authoritative sources for official designation. Under certain circumstances, the Secretary of the Treasury can also make designations. If there was a formal designation, there is no way that we would miss it - it would be well covered in the US media. I would be shocked if Kurdish leaders were not told face to face ahead of time, if an official designation as a terrorist group was coming.
On the other hand, I doubt that the US military will ride to rescue of the Kurds in Afrin, guns blazing. I believe the simple fact is that they are outside of the US security perimeter. We have no open ground line of communication into Afrin, and the airspace has been previously agreed to be under Russian control.
I have no doubt that Kobane is under US protection, and based on recent statements I believe that Manbij is as well. In Afrin however, I expect only Diplomatic or covert support - not air cover.
Perhaps if atrocities continue to mount, International opinion will intensify against the Turks (this is slowly happening). Also, the US may find another issue, or another way to put pressure on the parties involved in conducting, or allowing, the attack on Afrin. I saw Heather Nauert (official State Department Spokesperson) mentioning a new suspected use of chemical weapons by the Syrian regime:
Previously, the US struck the Syrian regime quite hard over this issue, so this poses a serious (potentially existential) threat to the Syrian regime. This could be a veiled ultimatum to Assad. Or it might just be a coincidence.
Home viewing bookmark.
*** We evidently will set on our hands. ***
It’s not like the Kurds weren’t warned that they would get stabbed in the back after being used. If not before, September should have been a wake up call they were being betrayed.
Kurd ne xwedî hevalên lê çiyayan hene
US military are still in Manbij and have made statements they have no intention of withdrawing.
They were “warned” by Erdogan.
Disgusting animals. I’ve avoided the video.
Thanks.
It would not surprise me if the view I was presented with was wrong. If so, I feel better about it.
I new about the issue of area of responsiblity that was long ago worked out. And that Efrin was not in ours. Russians “did” assume that until recently. I’m sure they were paid well to look the other way.
None of this makes me feel any better about the atrocities taking place. And they should have been expected knowing who actually is in the Militia’s attached to Turkey.
And the tone of Turkey building up to this. The severe sabor rattling and prayer chanting all over the country was stirring up the Blind Nationalism support.
If YPG would “find” the appropriate weapons, this could have an unexpected side. Turks have already been bloodied some. It is no cake walk.
The part that is troubling, if these atrocities build the international public sentiment it could go very badly for Turkey. What they are doing now, is totally incompatible with NATO. They may think they want to partner with Putin. As unstable as Erdogan is, I suspect that will be short lived.
I’ve had a very hard time today wrestling with this on an emotional level. I’ve seen bad spells related to this before, but never quite like this.
Guess we shall see.
My close friend there said exactly that today. Not the first time it was repeated over the past 3 years.
“Kurd ne xwedî hevalên lê çiyayan hene”
Brace yourself for continued atrocities.
Sadly, that is the nature of the enemy which faces the people of Afrin.
Yes, I’m aware of who they are. Saw some pics of some of the better know ones.
The Kurds know those in the region. These are smart people.
I can’t believe we’ll sit on our hands....our guys are already there helping the Kurds...who is saying it will die in Efrin?
The Afrin Canton was never under US protection.
Russians had troops there, the Russians/Assad regime had the ground supply lines to Afrin, and in a formal airspace deconfliction agreement with the USA, Russia and the Syrian regime controlled the airspace over Afrin.
It is the Russians/Assad regime who withdrew protection from Afrin.
Neither Turkey, nor the USA, want to be the first to open fire on the other - it is kind of a point of no return.
The US has troops in Kobani and Hassakah Cantons (and Manbij), and we have control of the airspace there (and provide combat air support as needed). Jihadi militias will not be allowed to run roughshod in Kobani or Hasakah - they will be annihilated.
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