Posted on 02/19/2018 7:15:10 AM PST by pcottraux
Cialdini, Robert. Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion. William Morrow and Company, NY, NY, 1984, pages 45-47.
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Three thoughts... One: #RustyIrony... the AR-15 is seemingly the official LibMedia weapon of choice for mass shootings. It’s all they talk about, and they’re glorified in movies by actors concerned with and who lecture us on “gun violence”. In these movies, the “good guys” (always armed) use them to destroy the bad guys (as it should be!). I wonder, how would many (most?) of these deranged shooters would even KNOW about the AR-15 and similar weapons if not constantly publicized by media. But they know the AR-15 is demonized by the press, so these demons choose it! Seems those losers who seek to be famous are willing to settle for infamous.
Two: media and Liberals proclaim in their constant demands for “something to be done”... that “weapons of mass murder” ONLY be in the possession of government... why spose that? In history the greatest genocides and holocausts have all been perpetrated by governments who have a monopoly on weapons. I guess Media/Libs want that to continue?
Three: as long as political posturing is the goal, there will be no dialog and no solutions, only yelling. Justathought or three.
A lot of the media considers themselves to be the lower echelon of Hollywood...mini-celebrities.
Anything that reminds them of the movies sends a “tingle” up their legs and they go bananas trying to scoop all the other journalists. Those that miss the “scoop”, then go on for days with “think pieces” about the subject.
They all seem to have to give their personal opinion on every, single story. The more they preach, the more drama arises from the steaming pile of wastoid, journalistic mess.
The only way to win the game, is not to play. Don’t watch, listen to, or read and MSM.
If violence in films doesn’t promote violence, why did they ban smoking in movies?
This is the attitude behind a village’s raising of a mass murderer. If you haven’t seen it, you should.
Florida student to NRA and Trump: ‘We call BS’
https://youtu.be/ZxD3o-9H1lY?t=34s
Surely just as culpable is the medical industry that puts boys as young as 3 or 4 on mind-altering drugs. Psychotropic drug prescriptions are a common thread running through the histories of a vast majority of mass murderers.
Coupled with the thousands of deaths attributed to the use of prescribed opioids, the drug companies and the doctors who prescribe their wares ought to be severely regulated in their use on children.
I am not to certain about holding the feet of the Obama/Clinton/Democrat Media, etc. to the fire relative blame for mass shootings at schools churches, concerts, parades, etc.
Nor, am I against any adjustment or change to Gun Control laws, mainly background checks and age requirements in order to obtain any “long gun”.
I am certain that these below listed, environments were almost 100% responsible for the murder and carnage of “innocents” that occurred in the Broward County ISD, in Florida last week. Here is the list of total failures that led to the murders of seventeen innocents.
- A failed Broward County, ISD leadership that did nothing to highlight the warning signs of an evil, mentally disturbed student.
- A failed multi FBI immediate follow-up, in fact no follow-up whatsoever, after being fully, alerted to the coming fatal danger at hand (FBI much too interested in “Russians, Russians” fake news). USA now has an DOJ/FBI with “Rogue leadership from top to bottom.
- The worst, however is Democrat, Congresswoman, Debbie Wassermann Schultz and her bosom buddy, Broward County Democrat, Sheriff, Scott Israel, whose left-wing led department missed obvious “tell tale” sings of the coming murders between twenty or thirty-nine times.
It really breaks my heart & soul that the voters of Broward County, Florida could ever support and vote for two incompetents such as “criminal”, Schultz and failed LEO, public servant, Israel. Rather then having their kids scream out for gun control...they should be screaming for and demanding for the removal & replacement of these two neglectful losers, who slept at the wheel of leadership as a mentally ill, left-wing Obamabot, nutcase planned his evil massacre with no barriers or roadblocks thrown in his way, from Democrat Party leaders. Sad!!! Go figure. Voters of Broward county are clearly not the sharpest knives in the drawer of reality and politics. My fear is the American Republic is dying right in front of our very own eyes.
Please explain your rationale for such an inane comment.
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Excellent point.
“If violence in films doesn’t promote violence, why did they ban smoking in movies?”
Audiences won’t pay to see people smoke..smoking bad, so it disappeared in the movies.
Audiences WILL pay to see “John Wick” shoot up the town. So the producers turn a blind eye to the violence, as long as the money keeps coming in.
By the time a child enters high school the child has witnessed thousands of murders on TV and or the movies. They are desensitized to the violence.
Cruz started throwing eggs at Speno’s car with no warning, Speno recalled. He and a friend chased Cruz back to his house. "We were pissed off, so we knocked on the door and his mom came out," Speno said. When the two told her what happened, Cruz’s mom had a strange reaction. "She said, ‘No, my son would never do that. He’s inside sleeping,’ " Speno recalled.
In the olden days a massacre massacre happens.
Day 1, all the locals know of it.
Day 5.T he county knows of it.
One month later the state capitol knows of it.
4 months later, Washington DC hears of it.
TODAY a shooting happens and it is known around the world within a minute, the blood dancers come out demanding more “gun control”.
Back in 1970, smoking advertisements were banned on TV, so the companies put product placement in all the movies. Everyone smoked, or drank beer or sodas with the name on the can or pack clearly visible.
Has something changed now to not show smoking in movies?
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Yes or no answers only...
Does commercial advertising work? If not, then why do it.
Does cigarette smoking in films promote cigarette smoking? If not, why ban it?
Does “product placement” in films work? If not, why pay to have your product placed in them
Does violence in films promote violence?
It is a fair question.
If your answer is no, then it is on you to defend your position as well.
Only psychopaths will use fictional violence in movies or games as an excuse to murder innocent people. We’re human beings—not animals. We know the difference between real violence and fictional violence, no matter how “graphic.”
And violence done by righteous people for righteous reasons is good. Good soldiers, good police and all other good Americans know it.
Children of the past who grew up to be righteous and caring adults said, “Let’s play cops and robbers! Bang, bang! You’re dead! Let’s play army next!” We’re better than the counter-culture that advanced so much against our freedoms and thoughtfulness.
I’m a baby boomer who long ago saw the light of the generations before ours and followed it. American exceptionalism, yes. Realizing our superiority to animals with our ability to reason and change, yes.
Violent movies and firearms don’t make the maniacs or make them murder others. They should have had spankings, when they were small and first trying to rebel against paternal authority and disrespect it.
I don’t think it’s been totally banned, but it is highly critcized, the point being that there seems to be no argument that seeing people smoke in movies encourages the behavior, while the same effect of violence is denied.
Really? You don’t see any correlation?
Advertisements and movie characters did not lead us to smoke back then. We were only mildly annoyed by adults around us who smoked.
Enticements and pressure from peers pushed us to smoke. Some of those peers seemed compelled to try many things that were bad and were impulsive young people. They pushed their vices on others.
Notice the marijuana fad. There were no advertisements promoting it in the 1970s, except for a very few strange and boring movies that only hippy potheads flocked to. Yet it was all the rage and spread throughout much of the population of youth. During the ‘80s, there were many ads that said, “Just say no to drugs.” Look at the pot paradigm now, as a large part of the population of all ages is participating in the same old dope fiend fad and preaching it.
“Does commercial advertising work?” Yes
“Does cigarette smoking in films promote cigarette smoking?” Yes
“Does “product placement” in films work?” Yes
“Does violence in films promote violence?” Yes
“It is a fair question.” No, it is not. There is no reasonable relationship between the two.
Most enlightened people realize that the ban on smoking in theaters was instituted originally because of fire danger and the discomfort of other theater patrons. That was far prior to the current political correctness dogma.
P.S. The ‘second hand smoke’ hoax is pure B.S. propagated by the anti-smoking crowd. Dosage is the key factor with any medication or carcinogenic. The studies attempting to link the two are a phony as the Anthropogenic (Human Driven) Global Warming cult studies.
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