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To: Sean_Anthony
My son-in-law is an Eagle Scout and a current cub scout leader. His son is a cub scout and his daughter has just joined them. I went to a Pinewood Derby function and do you know what I saw? Lots of moms and dads with all their sons and daughters doing cub scouts. Their troop is one of the first girl-integrated troops in Tennessee.

This girl-addition is not coming as a top-down instruction. It is coming from the parents who want all their children doing things together. It is not a mandate from above, it is rather an acceptance as to what all the parents doing scouts want.

I asked my son-in-law how things will be handled when the girls get older and he said that they will have separate camping (I don't know if he means separate camping as in separate tents or separate campouts.)

Imagine a mom who wants to be involved in scouts and wants to do scouting with her daughter and wants to be with her family, what would be wrong with scouting becoming a family thing?

I don't see it as a problem, especially when Girl Scouts is bad character education with their love of feminism and Planned Parenthood.

If the parents are in charge, and they are the ones running the troops, why should anyone tell them who they cannot add to the Scout experience?

13 posted on 05/03/2018 12:02:44 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Slyfox
If the parents are in charge, and they are the ones running the troops, why should anyone tell them who they cannot add to the Scout experience?

It took 30+ years of constant propagandizing and cultural acclimatization to convince the upcoming generation that boys and girls, men and women, share the same interests, learn the same way, and have the exact same biology.

18 posted on 05/03/2018 12:23:26 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Slyfox
If the parents are in charge, and they are the ones running the troops, why should anyone tell them who they cannot add to the Scout experience?

I've said this in other BSA threads, but it bears support when others say it. I have a boy scout and a girl scout, and I trust my boy scout leader to teach life skills (camping, sportsmanship, survival) to my daughter more than I trust the entirety of girl scouts to do so. The reason is that Boy Scouts is family friendly and Girl Scouts does everything it can to keep fathers away from the girls.
24 posted on 05/03/2018 1:00:03 PM PDT by siberianheat
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To: Slyfox

All that you say is valid, but I do not think Scouting will survive after making this change. Here is why:

My scouting experience revolved around summer camp. Our camp in the Sierras was in a pristine valley with a free flowing river and all the activities. The valley was large and evenings found us playing “capture the flag” on a large sandy play area — the game went into darkness before we had to be back at our camps for evening attendance.

Our camps involved open air cots scattered roughly into the groupings of our patrols and or close friends. We were not “watched” by our adult supervisors through the night.

Were these camp activities to be coed, there would be lots of time where Scouts could pair and be alone in this idyllic setting. What could go wrong?

Well, activities like this need huge amounts of adult supervision or “dating activities” start to happen. I do not believe Scouting can accept the liability that camps like mine would pose. So the camp will be eliminated. And a lot of the reason young men became interested enough to earn their Eagle badges will go with it.

Not that young women should be denied the right to achieve the Eagle rank, but their summer camp should be a girls sex only place.


25 posted on 05/03/2018 1:01:17 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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To: Slyfox

What you are missing is boys need to gang. Provide a positive gang environment such as BSA or leave them to their own demise such as MS13. Our failing school system squeezes boys through girl extrusions and expects them to be gentlemen at the other end. No. The BSA movement was based on raising men from boys. The new slant on the scouting program will dilute the institution, cause its downfall, and open up the gates of unstructured hell of boy gravitation toward thuggery.


27 posted on 05/03/2018 1:23:02 PM PDT by UpInArms (without failure there's no success only slavery)
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To: Slyfox

Here’s the problem. Boys are not allowed to be boys. The culture is completely emasculating boys. Many are completely useless when it comes to manly things. As the average 18 year old to change a tire or replace a battery.

As much as we love our mom’s, they don’t help boys be men. Modeling men being men is how boys become men.

A friend of mine was recently at a group camping site when four women drove up in a pickup towing a trailer. He thought maybe a Girl Scout Troop was coming. The women got out, set up a large campsite with 10-15 tents, a kitchen area etc. They then left in the truck. A while later a Boy Scout troop arrived and the boys came to a fully erected camp. Absolutely unacceptable.

When boys are together, they are loud, sometimes a little obnoxious and love o entertain each other with the noises they can make using only a hand and an armpit. Throw a couple girls in the room and they are told to be nice around the girls.

I honestly don’t care what the parents are supposedly calling for. Instead of capitulating, BSA should have told them that boys need their enclave.

But, in 2012, BSA caved to the culture and is now a perfect case study of the slippery slope theory.

Homosexual boys took 103 years to cave.
Five years and several cave-ins later they allow homosexual leaders, tranvestites, girls. I wonder what’s next?

I speak from experience. Cub Den Leader, Asst Cubmaster, Asst, Scoutmaster, Scoutmaster, Troop Founder, Father of one Eagle and one Life Scout. Currently with another boys adventure organization.


32 posted on 05/03/2018 2:07:32 PM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: Slyfox

That all sounds very fine: bringing families together, but they could all go camping together as a family anyway. Many families do these things already.

This however is denying boys girl-free zones. Men and boys are belittled on a daily basis in the media. The nonsense of toxic masculinity is a movement in the school system. What is wrong with men being men and boys being boys without feminine influence and nagging? I weep for these young men.


36 posted on 05/03/2018 2:42:03 PM PDT by punknpuss
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