Posted on 08/10/2018 4:52:21 AM PDT by w1n1
The 40 and 10mm are much better against barriers than the 9mm
This does not read well. Needs an editor for both grammar and content. -GP
During my extensive weapons training in the Navy we dissected the Michael Platt and William Matix shoot out for hours and hours and hours...The mistakes that the agents made were many but one thing I learned is that while revolvers are reliable, when you have been shot in the hand and you have lost your glasses it is much easier in my opinion to insert a loaded magazine into your hand gun than to try and load a revolver.
32 years - that’s about a third of a century, not a quarter of a century.
I read a detailed account of the Miami shootout by Ayoob.
The FBI learned a few things but also made an incorrect judgement regarding the 9mm.
The fact that the FBI agents were under armed was true. Mini-14s vs pistols is just not a fair fight. Even the shotguns were not their equal at first.
A big part of the problem is the bad guys just would not go down even when they were basically dead. The 9mms had performed properly including tearing the aorta off one guy who incredibly kept going for almost a minute.
Were they semi auto Mini-14s or AC-556 (full auto Mini 14)
For later.
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I don’t know. Probably would not have made much difference.
Back during the heyday of prohibition and classic gangsterism there were plenty of Thompsons and BARs floating abround.
About the Miami shootout:
Brave FBI agents in an elite unit but they made many mistakes that veteran street Police Officers wouldn’t have made. This might have been because FBI agents don’t make many or any traffic stops.
The agents had other weapons available to them such as AR 15’s and H&K MP 5’s but choose not to take them.
The fight was ended by an agents 38 special revolver.
Someone forgot to tell this to Coward County.
No, of course it doesn’t, and yes, it does. Always, every time, every day, at the same time every morning.
One of the agents who was killed, used multiple reloads and fired 29 shots from his service weapon. He never hit either of the assailants.
Two other agents lost their primary weapons as they came screeching to a stop at the scene. The weapons were stored loose on the passenger seats and bounced out of reach.
Clouds of road dust raised from the stopped cars made it almost impossible to see in the first minute of the incident.
The caliber of ammunition used was largely irrelevant.
Speed loaders.
The media was at risk prior to Trump?
Absolutely, I’ve used speed loaders, and I like speed loaders.
However, in the FBI case I mentioned, Special Agent John Hanlon had been shot in the hand and made loading a revolver impossible.
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