Posted on 09/14/2018 5:34:12 PM PDT by Starman417
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Many of us said the same about Obama. Never doubt the wildly mercurial, often emotion-based nature of the American voter.
Mean look on Kamal’s face.
I believe that McCain’s father was a naval officer serving on station in Panama....therefore the soil of the US was under the boots/shoes of his parents no matter where they stood.. to say otherwise would be counter thousands of years of the understanding of NBC (a term coined by the Romans and it included children of legionnaires born to them while campaigning with their camp follower wives in foreign lands.)
Kamala Harris, from my experience as a Californian and our shared experience with Bronco Bama, is living proof of the wisdom of including NBC as an eligibility requirement for the Office of the President.....
Being a Black-Indian woman born of foreign parents, and having an utter hatred for the country as founed guarantees her the 2020 Democrat nomination ...
Little Marco Rubio had the exact same circumstances of birth. Not a single republican said a word about his ineligibility for president.
“Got to get rid of them first.”
The Dems are giving that the ole college try in both Your state (Illinois) and mine (California). as a prelude to turning our current Civil War from cold to HOT.
Little Marco Rubio had the exact same circumstances of birth. Not a single republican said a word about his ineligibility for president.
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BS. There was plenty of it from Republicans right here on FR.
We gave a halfrican a shot at the presidency. Look what a mess he made of it. America has learned it’s lesson. But, isn’t Kamala a halfrican also?
I meant to say “elected” republicans. You know..... politicians.
..Booker stole her Marxist mojo...
“Not a single republican said a word about his ineligibility for president.”
I dispute that. Many on this forum, including me, objected to Rubio, Jindal, and Cruz for that very reason. In fact one Freeper just last week called me out on my objections to Cruz saying that NBC eligibility was effectively nullified because of BO. Total BS on his part. The NBC requirement is alive and well and part of the Constitution.
She is determined to remove every firearm she possibly can from the law abiding citizens of our nation.
Harris has been involved in every effort in Kalifornia to remove any and all 2A rights that she can think of.
She has authored, implemented, and enforced, the strictest gun control laws in our nation.
Vote against Harris and anything and everything she supports.
Thanks for the clarification.
The SCOTUS has never directly ruled on the meaning of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the constitution with regard to POTUS eligibility. But in SCOTUS cases wherein they have given a definition of what a NBC (or a 14th amendment citizen in the case of Wong Kim Ark)is, Minor vs Haperstatt, Venus Merchantman Case of 1814) they defined an NBC as a person born of TWO, count them TWO citizen parents (the parents don’t have to be NBC) and born in one of the states of the Union, or the territories.
The authors of the 14th amendment, in the Congressional debates on the matter, also defined an NBC in the same manner. Rep. Bimgham and Senator Jacob Howard were the principal authors of the 14th amendment. Here is a quote from Howard which clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment in 1866, which was to define citizenship. He stated: “Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”
Until this matter is formally adjudicated by the Court, I will defer to their NBC stare decisis definitions. Harris, Obama and a host of others were not, are not, and can NEVER be constitutionally eligible to be POTUS.
Whatever one thinks what the meaning of Article II, Section 1, clause 5 is, it is clear that the adoption of the 14th amendment did not alter it in any constitutional sense. How else can you account for the fact that the constitution only specifies for the office of senator and representative citizenship for a period of 9 and 7 years respectively, while the constitution requires the POTUS, to be NATURALLY born, owing allegiance to no other country? That is the ONLY constitutional provision for NBC. Obviously, there is a singular distinction with regard to that office. Under Jamaican and Indian citizenship law, for instance, It is conceivable that Jamaica or India could claim that Kamala Harris, thru her parents, is a citizen who owes allegiance to both of those countries FROM HER BIRTH. It was conferred upon her by those countries citizenship laws, just as valid as our own.
By the way, Ted Cruz (who I admire very much) made a very public demonstration of the fact that he was going to FORMALLY renounce his CANADIAN citizenship. What NATURALLY BORN US citizen has to do such a thing?
The framers of the constitution were patriarchs. (Yes I understand that is completely out of tune with modern sensibilities, but nonetheless it is true.) They believed that the citizenship of the FATHER was conferred upon his children. SCOUTUS incorporated in toto the ENTIRE 212th paragraph of Emerich De Vattel’s Law of Nations in their 1814 Venus merchantman case as they defined what an NBC is. Here is the money quote that Justice Livingstone that was cited when he wrote for the majority, “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”
I suspect the reason that many do not want this issue formally examined is that they wish to foster and enhance the globalist influence on the office of POTUS. The NBC requirement was never intended to be a guarantee of allegiance, but a safeguard against undue foreign influence on the office of POTUS, PARTICULARLY from a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty. The oath of naturalization requires a formal and legal renunciation of any prior national allegiances.
Jennie Spencer-Churchill, known as Lady Randolph Churchill, was a natural born US citizen, and a British socialite, the wife of Lord Randolph Churchill and the mother of British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill.
Under US citizenship law at the time of Churchill’s birth, despite the fact that his mother was a NATURAL BORN US citizen, she could not transmit her US citizenship on to young Winston owing to her marriage to a foreign national, Sir Randolph Spencer Churchill, who was Winston’s father. That would not be legally allowed until the passage of the Cable Act of 1922, well after Churchill’s birth in 1874. The Cable Act only confers citizenship, NOT NATURALLY BORN citizenship. It did not refer to, or alter the meaning of an Article II, Sec. 1, clause 5 “natural born citizen” in any way.
Churchill was granted HONORARY US citizenship by an act of Congress on 9 April 1963. It was understood that his birth to a an NBC citizen US mother in Great Britain did not make him a citizen by law.
This is just one more indication of the fact that Obama, Cruz, Rubio OR Harris can NEVER be constitutionally eligible to the office of POTUS. We need to have this issue finally adjudicated by SCOTUS for the first time in US history, and finally get a definitive answer one way or another.
We have enough naturally born anti-american, anti-constitutional cultural marxists in our country now who aspire to be POTUS. I say let’s eliminate all those who don’t even meet the basic Article II criteria. Winnow the opposition.
This matter is SCREAMING for a definitive ruling on the meaning of Article II, Section 1, clause 5, by the SCOTUS for the first time in the history of the US. It is revealing to note what Clarence Thomas told a House subcommittee that when it comes to determining whether a person born outside the 50 states can serve as U.S. president when he said that the high court is “evading” the issue. The comments came as part of Thomas’ testimony before a House appropriations panel discussing an increase in the Supreme Court’s budget in April of 2017. Thomas said that to Subcommittee Chairman Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y.
After two Obama terms, I think they are terrified of the implications of a ruling based on originalist constitutional intent and interpretation. That does not excuse the cowardice in refusing a grant of certiorari for those who wish to have SCOTUS exercise it’s Article III oversight on this matter.
For everybody's general info:
What is the definition of NATIVE born?
What is the definition of NATURAL BORN?
What is the definition of a person born of a US citizen parent and a parent who is not a US citizen?
Can you site a source for your answers? Thanks!
Women know have a problem with this chick. They need to pin her down.
A woman with power did nothing to protect powerless women from a dangerous predator like Harvey Weinstein.
When she had the bully pulpit and L/E power as Cali AG, why didnt Kamala do something about the marauding penis of Harvey Weinstein?
She says she’s an avowed feminist ....but Kamala’s inaction as Harvey stalked, attacked, and assaulted women speaks loudly about Kamala’s crude ambitions.
Thank the Good Lord.
Few had problems with McCain on this point as both parents were US Citizens and in the military.
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