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David Brooks: "The Trump Effect" Was To Make Suburbs Bluer
RCP Video ^ | 11-7-2018 | Tim Hains

Posted on 11/07/2018 7:01:12 AM PST by Sir Napsalot

..."Rural America is really Republican and urban America...is pretty Democratic," and the suburbs are getting bluer, says New York Times columnist David Brooks.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; suburbia
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To: cuban leaf

A good example of bluing of the inner suburbs and the reddening of the exurban areas can be seen in New Jersey, Bergen County was once solidly GOP, albeit on the RINO side. It is now solidly liberal, as Hudson and Essex Counties have been for almost a century. However, the three northwestern counties bordering Pennsylvania remain Republican strongholds.


21 posted on 11/07/2018 7:22:44 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: BRL
That is my purple suburb in columbus oh. Lots of high paid people on the government payroll.

Same in New York, the burbs are loaded with government or school employees.

22 posted on 11/07/2018 7:23:07 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Mr. K

They keep talking about “highly educated” suburban voters-THEY NEED TO SAY TOTALLY INDOCTRINATED VOTERS


23 posted on 11/07/2018 7:23:09 AM PST by magna carta
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To: Sir Napsalot

They’ve been turning blue way before Trump. As they get pushed out of the cities because of small apartments, growing families and high taxes and infrastructure problems, they move to the ‘burbs and vote the same way they did in the big city. Dumbheads!


24 posted on 11/07/2018 7:24:42 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Sir Napsalot

Ya see, Comprehensive Immigration Reform was supposed to be passed into law by now. So these cities and suburbs are all the democrats have left.

Because the wall’s going up and the gravy train is coming to an end.

And types like Brooks are SO disheartened.


25 posted on 11/07/2018 7:24:53 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Sir Napsalot

The burbs are loaded with school employees and parents that get indoctrinated by them.

The only way to take back the burbs is to take back the schools thru reforms. School Choice and competition would break the unions and it’s something that Betsy DeVois MUST do or it will get worse.


26 posted on 11/07/2018 7:25:43 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Sir Napsalot

Some day if the cities ever collapse, they’ll come looking to the red rural areas for a hand out like they are used to.

If they survive and manage to get out of the city in one piece.


27 posted on 11/07/2018 7:27:26 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Sir Napsalot

There’s no sugarcoating the Democrats’ capture of the House. It wasn’t a monster Blue Wave, but it was bad enough. Brooks is right: Tuesday’s results are to a large extent the revenge of the RINOs. That, and a few decades of socialist indoctrination in government schools and continuous MSM propaganda. Most millennials now favor socialism over capitalism and turn out to vote in record numbers.

The nation that elected and re-elected Obama is truly fractured.


28 posted on 11/07/2018 7:27:29 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: Sir Napsalot

This has been going on for a long time.

I remember seeing a LOT of Obama yard signs when he first ran in some very upscale suburban neighborhoods and wondered if it wasn’t a combination of virtue signalling/white guilt saying ‘look we can elect a “black” President now isn’t everything all better?’ as well as a rejection of neoconservatives by people who were more likely to look at ‘kitchen table issues’ and things from a more ideological perspective than practical.

Since then, I think as we have seen the blue collar vote slowly shifting red, you’re seeing more and more of the middle to upper suburbanites disassociate with the lunch pail mindset and are (in my observation) more willing to listen to the MSM without skepticism or question.

It’s that last part that amazes me. I can’t even watch 5 minutes of the evening news with these people without getting into a debate. They all think I’m some hard-line conservative but as many of you on here know, conservatives often think I’m a lefty, because I’m an equal opportunity cynic and while I’ve had my tiffs with neocons, I think socialists are by far the biggest threat to the American way. I’m anti-authoritarian/non-interventionalist. I’m not a naive suburban ideologue. These people think everything will get better through weakness and concession, and Trump is the exact opposite; Things get better through strength and determination. This methodology is both frightening and offensive to their pseudo-sensibilities. You can deal with the world and you can deal with domestic issues through appeasement and concession, but they never question why the problems get worse because nightly-news-NPC-head frames it only as Trump is an agitator, not a problem solver, and they all eat it up.


29 posted on 11/07/2018 7:29:07 AM PST by z3n
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To: dowcaet
All those liberal bureaucrats ruining America’s cities have to live somewhere. We don’t except them to live directly in the cities they f**k up each and every single day with their socialist policies!

Exactly
They move out of the crap hole cities into the burbs and still vote for the democrats
30 posted on 11/07/2018 7:29:13 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Sir Napsalot

Republicans definitely have some work to do to break through to some of these demographics that are filling up the suburbs: minorities, the college educated and women. Different strategies are probably needed for each.


31 posted on 11/07/2018 7:30:28 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: MNJohnnie

Do we have an outcome for MT yet?


32 posted on 11/07/2018 7:30:35 AM PST by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Good riddance I will gladly take the working people from the Dems in exchange. If these suburbanites got their tax cuts and now decide to vote Democrat, then it is time tor raise their taxes! Screw the open borders rino C of C crowd.
33 posted on 11/07/2018 7:31:11 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
I am going to renew my offer that large cities become states of their own. Bolshies will look at it as a gain of new Senators to their side. However, I think most of their former states will turn redder. The House will not, appreciably, change.

Yes, there are alot more stupid people out there.

34 posted on 11/07/2018 7:31:12 AM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '20.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Suburban women; their minds are so open, their brains fell out.


35 posted on 11/07/2018 7:32:17 AM PST by steve8714 ("My name is Rod Blagojevich and I need cash now!" (all) "Call JB Pritzker, 87DirtyCashNOW!")
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To: uncbob

I was dismayed by all the Beto signs in my neighborhood.


36 posted on 11/07/2018 7:33:08 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

He’s right on that. But Trump is also overall turning the country more red/conservative/Republican. He is in a decent position to win reelection. His legacy will be determined by how much he is able to re-establish law (on voting fraud last night, not so much, unfortunately) and reverse the issues of illegal immigration changing our electorate (and economy) for the worse.

If he breaks the Dems’ stranglehold on the African-American vote, for example, that could help to be transformative.

It’ll be harder now that the House is lost, in that needed immigration and other reform legislation won’t get passed in a useful form. But he will still be able to work diligently on the Senate side, with the judiciary, etc.—and we can hope for a better House after 2020.


37 posted on 11/07/2018 7:34:41 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Skepolitic
Most millennials now favor socialism over capitalism

Look, the American Nationalist movement which Donald Trump heads is not very pro-capitalism.

If you look at the disastrous condition of our people in the Rust Belt and Appalachia, there is an excellent case to be made that capitalism is to blame.

AND, not for nothing, there is enormous popular support for nationalizing the medical industry.

A hard-core border closer who socialized the "healthcare" sector would be unbeatable. I always thought Trump would have rolled out an opt-out single payer scheme by now.

38 posted on 11/07/2018 7:34:42 AM PST by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Many of these races were decided by between one and two percentage points and less. Hardly, a time to be making these large pronouncements one way or the other.


39 posted on 11/07/2018 7:34:45 AM PST by McCarthysGhost
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To: Jim Noble

Crap, did not see that. They are still counting!


40 posted on 11/07/2018 7:36:32 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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