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Repeating Rifles
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 11/15/2018 | L Whitman

Posted on 11/15/2018 5:58:21 AM PST by w1n1

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To: schurmann
Browning used to make a copy, but I’ve no direct experience with it. Winchester recently introduced modern replicas, but I cannot speak to their quality as I have no direct experience with them either.

The Browning and Winchester replicas are made by Miroku in Japan and are fine guns. Miroku has also made reproductions of the 1873, the 1876, and 1895 Winchesters.

41 posted on 11/15/2018 2:50:21 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: This_Dude

That’s some serious bad luck. I’m around a bunch of cowboy shooters and the only malfunctions I’ve seen are when they run at speed and eject a live round by mistake.

The lever guns I’ve shot have all been reliable.

To give you an idea of what some folks are capable of with one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68PJM5bazM


42 posted on 11/15/2018 2:54:08 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: schurmann; This_Dude

Norinco was putting out some suprisingly nice stuff back in the late 80’s/early ‘90s...I had one of their 1911 copies and it was cherry...quite accurate and well made.


43 posted on 11/15/2018 2:54:38 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Vaquero

IMI (Isreali Military Industries) used to produce a pump action in .357 Mag called the Timberwolf; I almost picked one up but the seller wanted way to much. They were out of production by then, so that’s ok...replacement parts would have been hard to come by.


44 posted on 11/15/2018 2:59:45 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Towed_Jumper
What a great rifle!

Why wouldn't it be? John Moses Browning designed it.Winchester kinda ruined it in '64, but that's another story.

45 posted on 11/15/2018 3:05:31 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: SirLurkedalot

.357 is what I want too. Perfect match with my revolvers.


46 posted on 11/15/2018 4:17:45 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie; SirLurkedalot

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Henry makes an excellent .357 lever action rifle.


47 posted on 11/15/2018 4:23:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I know, right? My first handgun was a 586; picked up the Trapper about 3 months later. .357 is no joke.


48 posted on 11/15/2018 4:26:09 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Mariner

Properly placed, 30’06 will plant every critter found in North or South America on its belly.


49 posted on 11/15/2018 4:30:14 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: editor-surveyor
They sure do. I for one was really happy to see Henry surge back like they did. Loved those infomercials they started putting out 😀
50 posted on 11/15/2018 4:37:14 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: SirLurkedalot

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One of the things I like most about my Henry is that it cannot be locked by any means.


51 posted on 11/15/2018 4:51:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SirLurkedalot

Saw a colt lightning pump rifle at a gun show recently. Circa 1890s. .32-20 winchester caliber. He wanted $ 1200. If it was .44-40 or .38-40 I might have sprung for it. I own an original (made 1882) winchester 73 in 44.40. I still shoot it. It’s like shooting history.


52 posted on 11/15/2018 5:29:53 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: Vaquero

LOL I’d just be proud to hold them for a bit (that Colt pump and your ‘73)

I’m all about this modern gear but I get quite serious and damn near teary-eyed around the heritage pieces. Like you said “its like shooting history”.


53 posted on 11/15/2018 6:27:18 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: w1n1

Only slightly OT, but I wouldn’t mind trying my hand with a remington rolling block at decent distances. Uberti makes a nice replica.

CC


54 posted on 11/15/2018 9:19:05 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (Do you know what really burns m hy ass? A flnt ame about 3 feet high.)
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To: This_Dude

“Unscoped and resting, about 1.5 inches at 100, sometimes 1.25. Scoped is around double that. 250 I group about 3.5 to 4 inches. I had to install the scope rail myself. It’s a great rifle” [This_Dude, post 37]

Outstanding.

Not sure my judgment means much though...over the course of more than a decade and a half in gun sales & repair for a small family dealership, I heard boasts without end from owners of semi-only Kalashnikov clones. But when we asked them what group sizes they obtained, or asked them to show us their test targets, not one of them mentioned a group size nor did any produce a test target.

The senior repair tech I worked with once owned a Kalashnikov clone of uncertain origin, marked GOLDEN WEST ARMS as I recall. He was one of the best marksmen I ever met, and a handloader of extraordinary care and precision, but he could never induce that clone to produce any groups smaller than a dinner plate at 100 yd. So he sold it.

When I was a cadet, I was on the intercollegiate rifle team at the US Air Force Academy. During one routine practice session I cleaned an international rimfire target at 15 meters. But those days soon passed.

When I took up NRA High Power service rifle competition about ten years later, I was never able to coax my M1A (mid-range four-digit) to fire a group tighter than two inches at 100 yd, no matter how I tinkered with the loads.

Got the same results from the Garand M1 I obtained from the then-DCM about five years after that (lightly used Winchester).

All results had been fired from the prone position with a sling, no sandbags nor rests, iron sights: age had been less than kind to my eyeballs, which had not been pilot-qualified to begin with.


55 posted on 11/19/2018 8:02:41 AM PST by schurmann
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To: schurmann

What most people don’t understand about Kalashnikov rifles is that the barrel and trunnion are pressed and must be pressed square to the action. 50 years of illiterate Russians beating them into place with a rubber mallet gave it a bad rep for accuracy. If you were to press and laser level it all during barrel installation, and it’s nitrided barrel like mine, with exactly. 0002 inch runoff, th3n you will be shooting as straight as any off the rack AR. Say what you will about China, but they build world class AK rifles. Light years ahead of the Russians

My mak90 is my go to for everything. Hogs, sometimes deer, bump in the night, truck gun, zombie apocalypse, you name it. It does it all, as long as “all” is within 450 yards


56 posted on 11/19/2018 8:36:28 AM PST by This_Dude
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