Posted on 06/24/2019 5:32:48 AM PDT by NOBO2012
Yes, the world has officially gone mad. First YouTube and Facebook imposed their “standards” for group-think. Then the role-playing gaming site RPG.net joined the community opposed to free speech with this announcement:
We are banning support of the administration of President Trump. You can still post on RPG.net even if you do in fact support the administration — you just can't talk about it here.
Most generous of them to at least let you think things you are not allowed to speak of. So they haven’t yet gone full 1984.
Then, as noted here yesterday, Ravelry, a crafting website community of knitters and crocheters, couldn’t wait to not be first to “ban support of Donald Trump and his administration.”
The Unravelling of the American Mind
Somebody should remind the current crop of progressives that at one time “freedom of speech” was a core value of liberalism…and that it included freedom to speak things that they specifically don’t like, don’t want and don’t believe in. That’s what makes it “free,” free of your endorsement.
Progressives are seriously unravelling.
If they’re not careful they’ll come completely undone.
Posted from: MOTUS A.D.
Back from the beach; back to reality.
This is a good thing. We used to impose these limitations on ourselves. Now they are doing it. There is no going back to our collective stockholm syndrome.
Soon they will see the futility of what they are doing & how it only hurts themselves.
Sadder still to watch it die
Than never to have known it
For you, the blind who once could see
The bell tolls for thee
“...Ravelry, a crafting website community of knitters and crocheters, couldn’t wait to not be first to “ban support of Donald Trump and his administration.””
Buncha knitwits.
The Soviet Union would allow you to think about your religion, but never to practice it openly.
“...Ravelry, a crafting website community of knitters and crocheters, couldn’t wait to not be first to “ban support of Donald Trump and his administration.””
Looks like they’re all using their pre-prepared, master generated hate speech statement.
How typically - and predictably- leftist of them.
Most (or all..) of the other website forums I visit (TGP, Marshall forum, etc.) specifically say “no religion or politics!”). Too many people do not have the civility or decorum to discuss such things over the internet.
This is echo chamber stuff.
Social Media is only relevant if you use social media.
Its really pretty simple. If you keep your personal life, personal...its not going to come back and hurt you.
“Most (or all..) of the other website forums I visit (TGP, Marshall forum, etc.) specifically say “no religion or politics!”).”
I KNEW there were other TGPers here. I have had to block the Pub and the Sound Hound Lounge. It is hard to avoid questioning the liberal lunacy, and I found myself in trouble too often. Now for me it’s just the general guitar or amp forum, and occasionally the emporium. (willie k)
I’ve been exploring (as opposed to participating in) message boards since I was learning how to multiply. The first rule seems to be “Stay on topic!” That means no politics on a knitting board.
If the board is privately owned and operated, the owner gets to decide everything, including whether and when to self-destruct by not enforcing rule #1.
It was a sincere, though unintended, compliment to me and my ability to withstand propaganda and adhere to TRUTH and my rejection of groupthink and all its mendacity, that Facebook kicked me out.
Note tagline!
Nothing else matters. No other principle is as important as making sure that nasty hatefilled corporations ran by liberals can censor public speech which they don't like.
I no longer believe that is tolerable in cases in which the owner controls a significant quantity of mass communications. Little po-dunk sites that have insignificant levels of traffic, sure, but when you have millions of users, you become part of the public commons, and cannot be allowed to control speech at that level.
I regard it as a threat to our system of governance to allow any entity to censor so much public speech. China already forces Google, Facebook, Youtube, and so forth to censor speech they don't like.
Letting corporations get away with this behavior will simply result in governments pressuring them to censor speech as these governments direct.
It will become back door censorship of freedom of speech by any totalitarian government on the planet.
I still read some of the more active newgroups on usenet.
In the rec.food.cooking ng, a poster with the handle “Christ_Killer” showed up a few months ago as a way to interject religion.
Similarly, the rec.arts.tv group is full of political trolls.
They never meant it.
Consider the German folksong/anthem “Die Gedanken Sind Frei”. It means “Thoughts are Free” and it was used by lefties all over the world to attack West Germany’s laws against communist subversion.
But there are certain Gedanken in Germany that remain strictly illegal.
There are many other examples. Everything with these people is a means to an end.
Lets see. In your world we have to choose between being able to own private property or having the government force us to use our resources and spend our money to promote any random message anyone out there wants to spout.
It isn't enough that the speaker can distribute their message any way they like and can afford. No, we need the federal government to make sure everyone listens to their words.
But doesn't that cause a problem for "communications systems", you ask?
Since the government is forcing them to publish anything anyone wants them to without curation doesn't that mean that the system will be flooded with crap and the owner's investment will be trashed?
Well, technically yes, but never fear.
We'll have wise men deciding for us exactly which private property will be confiscated and exactly which messages must be broadcast.
For instance, there's this communications system called Free Republic but it's in favor with the current Secretary of Compelled Publishing so not to worry. He doesn't like liberal speech so the "owner" is still allowed to ban posters. I'm sure the next Secretary will have the same wisdom.
Do not deliberately misstate my position. I have explained it to you enough times that you understand it, so don't go trying to claim I want to do this to everybody.
Communications companies are a special case, because they control something of vital interest to the United States.
They control speech.
It isn't enough that the speaker can distribute their message any way they like and can afford. No, we need the federal government to make sure everyone listens to their words.
When they control mass communications. Yes. They must be forced to allow everyone to use their communications equipment. Absolutely. Just like the Telephone company.
For instance, there's this communications system called Free Republic...
And here you go again. I've addressed your attempts to introduce "Free Republic" in your defense of trillion dollar corporate fascist-nazis controlling speech, and I tell you "Free Republic" is too small and insignificant to warrant any intervention. Furthermore, "Free Republic" is effectively a "club", and it makes it clear to everyone that it is effectively a political club.
When you are big enough to cause freedom of speech issues for a significant portion of the population, you are big enough to be barred from censorship. When you are not, you are not.
That's very reassuring, Mr. Secretary.
You don't have to trust me, you just have to make sure the legislation is written so that it deals with large communications companies and excludes small ones.
And no, the idea isn't Soviet. What is soviet is allowing these fascist bastards to control speech in America.
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