Posted on 02/02/2020 9:52:53 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
Yes I did. Anybody who can read the multiple quotes from Jefferson can see he supported the state’s right to unilateral secession.
Really, its not that difficult. He was quite clear about it.
So we’ve determined the root of your condition - you may be able to read but you have zero reading comprehension.
Yes, secession was one of many topics at the Hartford Convention. And yes, there were some participants who felt that they should secede. But no, secession was never an adopted conclusion of the conventioneers.
“The Hartford Convention resulted in a declaration calling on the Federal Government to protect New England and to supply financial aid to New England’s badly battered trade economy. It also advanced recommendations for a few Constitutional amendments, including requiring a two-thirds majority vote in order for war to be declared.”
Doesn’t sound like a call for secession to me.
https://connecticuthistory.org/the-hartford-convention-today-in-history/
Ah I KNEW you were going to try to weasel. Its what you do.
Yes as I said, they did not adopt a resolution to secede. They did discuss it. They did think it their right to do so.
And no, they would not have had to have adopted a resolution to secede in order to think they had the right to. Had they not thought it within their power/right they never would have bothered calling and coming to a convention to discuss whether they should.
To my great surprise, I immediately recalled the story, but still drew a complete blank on the names.
Believe it or not, they used to teach things like that to college freshmen in the 1960s.
Also interesting - the first edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica was published just 22 years after the Battle of Culloden.
As a Southerner and of Scottish descent, I was told the stories by family. There is a book that has the supposition that war was inevitable, because of the difference between Anglo Saxons in the North and Celts in the South. I believe it was written by Randall Wallace of Braveheart fame.
Interesting.
First time I have heard about the Anglo vs. Celt theory.
Curiously, I had two great-great grandfathers who fought in the Civil War.
That generation of my family was 100% German, which I believe officially makes them Saxons. They were Lutheran ministers and farmers who settled in Peoria, Illinois, and fought for the North.
By my generation, one of my grandfathers married an English Quaker woman (my grandmother), so I guess I am definitely Anglo and Saxon!
Ironically, I spent a large part of my youth in the western Carolinas. My mother and I both had a genuine love for the people and the culture of the Old South.
I have not been in a southern state since the 1980s, so, I imagine my memories of the Old South are long gone.
What I lament is the “McDonalds-ization” of America, including the south. I grew up in New Orleans and Huntsville, Alabama and toured the south in the 60’s. Business has taken me to lots of cities, mostly in the west and south, and sadly they are losing their individual character in favor of “out of the box” architectural styles that are uniform and deadly boring.
Hopefully the smaller burgs are faring better.
The South has changed some what, but it is still the South. Our people are more diverse, but most are fitting in pretty well. People are still friendly and the food is still great. Our new folks have graciously shared their cuisines and it is all coming together nicely.
We would have to build a million miles of border wall.
The nice thing is totalitarian hellholes build walls to keep their people from escaping... so in a fairly short period of time they’ll build high security walls to keep their people form leaving.
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