Posted on 05/19/2020 5:42:14 AM PDT by marktwain
“I experimented with shooting through shotgun barrels with chokes. I only looked at 20 and 12 gauge barrels.”
You were shooting 22 cal shot through shotgun barrels?
I’m not understanding what you are saying.
“On a good day chokes don’t matter, and on a bad day chokes don’t help.”...said no trap shooter...ever.
“You might want to consider the Cutts Compensator which was very popular with skeet shooters from the 30’s onward as an external jug choke.”
Kinda hard to find one in 22 cal.
You have to pick an appropriate one, true. But over thinking selection in sporting and changing them at every station is counter productive.
I have some really nice shotguns at great prices because they had PolyChokes.
I like polys more than cutts. Although the .410 cutts is a nifty little item.
The box says:
Federal Premium
410 Handgun
410 2 1/2 In Buckshot
4 Pellets - 000 Buck
Muz Vel 850 FPS
Personal Defense
And they are steel.
The problem with the round steel ball is they do not do a quick kill, unless you get a brain shot. As with lead, they do not tumble, fragment or mushroom which all causes more damage, thus a quicker kill.
I’ve been killing these critters for years, and a conventional bullet will put them to sleep in short order, usually taking no longer than a few minutes.
My most memorable shot was with an open sight SKS at about a hundred yards. When hit the critter convulsed so quickly it came out of the water about two feet with parts flying in every direction. The main carcass sank. The larger parts remained afloat for a short time, then a large fish (probably northern pike) started gulping them down.
Why do you believe they are steel?
Did you do a magnet test?
The Federal website shows them as lead.
I’m not understanding what you are saying.
It is not hard to do with a .22 adapter.
I grew up oggling both in the catalogs and gun magazines.
I never was predjudiced against them.
Some people judge everything by appearances.
I love the way they look.
They do increase muzzle awareness for many shooters.
Were any Routledge guns made with reverse paradox barrels?
I have not heard of any that were a combination of rifled followed by smoothbore.
OK, you were using a 22 cal adapter in a shotgun barrel, which wouldn’t be a smooth transition to the choke.
You need to make something to screw unto a 22 cal that you could drill out to 22 cal bore and then bore a jug choke in that.
It needs to start at 22 cal bore, to taper, to jug, to taper back to 22 bore.
Trap shooting is pretty much full choke for everyone. A few use mod and some x full.
Great. Go for it.
I find it an interesting idea.
Were any shown that outperformed the Routledge bore?
First thing is to find, is if anyone already did the experiment.
If I still had access to a lathe I would make one for you.
I have considered making one, but my machining skills are small, my time limited, as is my access to a lathe, and the indications are it would not work from a rifled bore.
The dimensions which might be optimum are unknown.
Another reason I have not worked harder or found someone to make one is the patterns I am seeing with the reverse paradox tubes, are nearly optimum for the effective range of #12 shot.
The Routledge bore is a constant diameter countersink from the muzzle back about 18”. I doubt anyone has added constriction to a .22 smoothbore, given the small shot charge and limited distance they’re used.
I did manage to break a skeet low house 1 with one when it sailed by about 12 feet away.
Well, I was a tool and die maker that has done quite a bit of gunsmithing.
I could make one easy if I had a lathe.
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