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Marines are finally about to receive their first new pistol in 35 years
taskandpurpose.com ^ | May 21, 2020 | Jared Keller

Posted on 05/22/2020 1:04:47 PM PDT by PROCON

The Marine Corps has officially begun procurement of the Army's Modular Handgun System to replace its existing pistol arsenal, the service announced on Tuesday.

The M18 service pistol — a compact variant of the striker-fired M17 that, based on Sig Sauer's P320, the Army adopted under the MHS program in 2017 — will finally see fielding this fiscal year, according to Marine Corps Systems Command.

MARCORSYSCOM spokesman Maj. Ken Kunze had previously pegged the start of fielding at some time during the third quarter of fiscal year 2020, with a target completion date in "late 2023."

The M18 will replace the Beretta M9 that the Corps adopted in 1985, as well as the selectively-fielded Glock 9mm M007 concealed carry and the beloved M45A1.

“The MHS improves on the precision and reliability of the legacy platforms, while also bringing with it new, more effective ammunition,” said Program Manager for Infantry Weapons weapons product manager Maj. Mike Brisker in a statement.

The M18 at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia on April 17, 2019,(U.S. Marine Corps photo)

The Corps has been angling for a taste of the Army's new pistol since 2018 when the service's fiscal year 2019 budget request laid out plans to purchase 35,000 of the new MHS.

The M18 "provides modularity and greater shooter ergonomics over the current models which will allow for more accurate fire for military personnel of different sizes," as the Corps's budget request put it at the time,

The service ended up buying roughly 30,306 M18s that fiscal year, according to budget documents.

The Corps has been rocking the M18 since February 2019, when Sig Sauer first delivered some 5,000 of the pistols to the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps for training, demonstration, and evaluation.

Both the Navy and Air Force plan on purchasing 60,000 and 130,000 M18 pistols in the coming years, respectively, while the Army plans on buying roughly 195,000 MHS pistols — the majority of which will be M17s.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: banglist; m18; marines; modular; sigsauer; usmarines; usmc
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To: dljordan

Herr Wolfgang likes the 9mm just fine, all the way back to 1908.


61 posted on 05/22/2020 3:25:40 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: imardmd1

I got to the part;
“Suns last Ray”
and started thinking
“Coranado Bay Bridge”
;)


62 posted on 05/22/2020 3:28:12 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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To: yarddog

I believe they’re made in Exeter.


63 posted on 05/22/2020 3:30:33 PM PDT by offduty
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To: tet68

Female,
Yup.
Lowest common denominator.
I love the ladies,
But Please,
Not in My Foxhole!


64 posted on 05/22/2020 3:32:23 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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To: IrishPennant

That’s Funny right There,
not the VW doing 90.


65 posted on 05/22/2020 3:37:05 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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To: IrishPennant; PROCON

And I recall my platoon sergeant saying that most soldiers weren’t trained in how to aim and fire the .45. He then gave me a short block of instruction on how to properly hold and aim the M-1911. When everyone else was bitching about them, I ended up putting all 7 rounds in the 50 meter target, and remembering his instruction ended up doing expert with it every time. With an M-16, I wasn’t a great shot. And later we had LTC that insisted our scouts use the sights on their M-2s instead of just “point and spray.”


66 posted on 05/22/2020 3:41:13 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Yo-Yo

“As long as I’m carrying ammunition that has passed the FBI protocols for penetration, I feel very comforted.”

Oh, so you trust the FBI on this?


67 posted on 05/22/2020 3:43:40 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: carriage_hill

For what you have invested in those two beauties I could buy a nice used minivan.


68 posted on 05/22/2020 3:52:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Obadiah
Like I always say, the reason I carry a .45 is because I can’t carry a .46.

In 1869, Remington actually introduced a .46 caliber handgun with their cartridge conversion of the New Army Model of 1863 cap and ball revolver. Although Smith & Wesson had been making .22 and .32 caliber cartridge revolvers for over a decade, Remington's was the very first large caliber revolver on the market. Colt didn't introduce one until 1872.

69 posted on 05/22/2020 3:54:03 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Big Red Badger

I swear that when in formation at Present Arms for weapons inspections, you could hear some .45s rattling like marbles in tin cans in the hands of the new Pvts and PFCs when the Gunny was coming close...damned fine weapon, though.


70 posted on 05/22/2020 3:55:12 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Proud yet grieving father of my precious child Jon Jon...)
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To: dljordan

If someone were to offer to buy me any handgun I wanted within reason, I probably would choose a Glock 20 or maybe a Sig 220 in 10mm. Then again maybe a Model 29 or maybe a model 27. Heck there are so many great guns out there.

Still I feel perfectly well armed with my old Browning Hi-Power. I do use the Mec-Gar 15 rounders and another 20 rounder as a spare.


71 posted on 05/22/2020 3:56:31 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: GreyFriar

Amazing how much wisdom lies within experience...wish I’dda listened and heeded so much more...


72 posted on 05/22/2020 3:56:39 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Proud yet grieving father of my precious child Jon Jon...)
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To: LaRueLaDue

Yeah, in this instance, where Comey, McCabe, and Stzrok had nothing to do with the design and implementation of the standards, I do trust the FBI.


73 posted on 05/22/2020 4:09:10 PM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: 43north

Don’t forget, one .380 would have started WW1, but the guy did fire twice.

Both targets deceased in minutes, and the shots still echo 106 years later.


74 posted on 05/22/2020 4:10:24 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: Yo-Yo

12 lessons from the FBI Miami shootout

Apr 10, 2019

 

75 posted on 05/22/2020 4:12:00 PM PDT by Bratch (“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: 43north
A 9mm (or .380 Magnum as some of us like to refer to it) MUST expand to be effective. A .45 is already a .45 so any expansion is nice but not absolutely necessary.

Shot placement is, and always has been, absolutely necessary for any round to be effective.

76 posted on 05/22/2020 4:33:33 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: Big Red Badger
.380 is closer
To a mouse gun
So what is the Point.

I'm guessing you wouldn't mind getting shot in the foot with a .380, right?

77 posted on 05/22/2020 4:38:36 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: PA Engineer

I see what you did. LOL


78 posted on 05/22/2020 5:15:58 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s).)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Sorry if I
Offended a
“Mouseketeer”
;)


79 posted on 05/22/2020 5:34:34 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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To: GreyFriar

So,
What did You learn to
Better Utilize
The 1911?
I can’t hit worth
A Dam but several
Time’s the BARK produced
The desired results.
.
That’s why it’s
So Dam Awesome!


80 posted on 05/22/2020 5:41:21 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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