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Posted on 03/19/2021 11:01:06 AM PDT by PROCON
Ammunition companies have not been able to keep up with consumer demand. There are many reasons for this. In 2020, over eight million Americans bought their first gun. These people now need ammo. Others are stockpiling. It’s hard to blame them, as we now have President Joe Biden (D), Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and U.S. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) all saying they want to pass new gun-control laws.
But if you think the shortage is bad now, just imagine if these politicians got one more thing they want: a repeal of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA).
When he was running for president, Biden made a campaign promise to do all he could to repeal the PLCAA; also, “his agenda for his first 100 days in office includes introducing legislation to accomplish this goal,” to NRA-ILA. Ending the PLCAA would mean the destruction of the U.S. firearms industry, including the ammunition industry.
In 2005, the PLCAA was enacted to bring an end to frivolous and damaging lawsuits that anti-Second Amendment organizations and individuals were using to financially cripple gun makers.
As NRA-ILA explained: “Imagine if firearm manufactures and sellers—even those who strictly followed the laws enacted to regulate their industry—faced potential civil liability every time a criminal misused a firearm. The effect would be similar to holding automobile makers and dealers responsible for injuries caused by drunk drivers. No business, no matter how conscientious and law-abiding, could ever survive being liable for the acts of millions of random people over whom it had no control.”
Pragmatically speaking, the Second Amendment is not viable if we can’t purchase firearms, ammunition, and related shooting gear.
The PLCAA was passed by a bipartisan majority in both chambers of Congress and signed into law by then-President George W. Bush. The impetus for the PLCAA was a flood of lawsuits that sought to hold firearms manufacturers responsible for illegal acts perpetrated with firearms.
“Lawsuits were piling up in the mid to late 1990’s and early 2000’s when over 40 big city mayors conspired through the U.S. Conference of Mayors with gun-control activist lawyers from the Brady Center and greedy trial lawyers,” the National Shooting Sports Foundation reported. “Their plan was to haul firearm manufacturers and sellers into court to make the industry pay for the subsequent criminal misuse of legal, non-defective firearms lawfully sold after a background check to law-abiding Americans exercising their Second Amendment rights.”
And these lawsuits didn’t even have to be victorious for the anti-Second Amendment groups to score wins. Simply keeping the gun makers in court, fighting to survive while the antis filed innumerable lawsuits, extensions, and appeals, cost millions of dollars and could have even bankrupted these manufacturers.
Biden and other anti-Second Amendment activists routinely claim that the PLCAA provides some extraordinary grant of immunity upon the firearms industry; actually, the law simply says that these agenda-driven lawsuits can’t be brought against a manufacturer and other companies.
Jonathan Turley, the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University addressed this in an op-ed for The Hill. He wrote, “Product liability and tort actions against manufacturers have uniformly and correctly been rejected by the courts. Guns are lawful products, and holding companies liable for later misuse of such products is absurd. You might as well sue an axe manufacturer for the Lizzy Borden murders.”
Remove the protections in place with PLCAA, and every firearm, shotshell, and cartridge maker could theoretically be sued every time a criminal uses a firearm in an illegal act. Every lawsuit would cost these manufacturers a great deal of money in legal fees.
If gun makers and dealers go bankrupt, gun-control groups can effectively end the Second Amendment without a single win in court.
If gun makers and dealers go bankrupt, gun-control groups can effectively end the Second Amendment without a single win in court.
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PLCAA provides some extraordinary grant of immunity upon the firearms industry
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But we have immunity for the ‘vaxxxxxine’ manufacturers.
Not a problem - MUCH MORE IMPORTANT to get rid of those pesky Senate RINOs from Georgia than to worry about our Second Amendment. And those RINOs are gone. YIPEE!!!!?? Hmmm? (maybe I won’t listen to Lin Wood next time)
I am loathe to shoot any ammo, so I have purchased a couple of air rifles and pistols in .22 and .177 calibers and a whorde of pellets. Now I can at least go shooting without diminishing my other resources.
If you can’t get ammo then upgrade optics, mounts, triggers, slings, and buy spare parts.
POWW
Better to have 70,000,000 enemies in front facing us than to have a dozen in our ranks stabbing us in the back.
Ammo prices are starting to drop some. The sgammo.com site has 5.56 brass cased m193 and M855 from IMI that is about .80 per round for 500rd cases. That is still expensive, but a day may come when that seems cheap!
I’m good for 8 years, thanks.
This time last year I was still getting 7.62x39 for $220/1000, 5.56 was under $459/1000.
Now u be lucky to find some for only double the cost, and its the super cheap steel case stuff.
COMPLETE and utter nonsense. Any intellectually capable and honest person would admit the same. Perdue and Loeffler both had fantastic records on the 2nd Amendment. The only reason that any of this stuff is even a possibility, is because the Rats have a trifecta, which morons on "our side" just handed to them without a whimper.
Rest assured, the same morons that handed the Senate to the Democrats will be the same cowardly morons that hand in their guns. "I WILLZZ NOTS COMPLIES" notwithstanding. If you are too cowardly and stupid to fight at the ballot box, you absolutely won't fight on the battlefield.
“Better to have 70,000,000 enemies in front facing us than to have a dozen in our ranks stabbing us in the back.”
99.99% of those 70M you’re counting on WILL COMPLY, once they see the power the Democrats now have. I suspect that they’ll begin by emptying the bank accounts of people who don’t register (or don’t later turn-in) their firearms. But there is more they can do, far more. And you won’t even know who’s doing it...just some nameless person in DC, doing his job, pressing a few buttons on a keyboard. So good luck massing your army with the remaining 1000 or so holdouts, but keep in mind that half of them will be FBI informants.
And I’m almost happy you guys will FINALLY find that out, as I’ve been attacked long enough here for saying that RINOs are better than Democrats. Now you guys will find out that I’m right.
Thanks TexasGurl - see my post just above. The 2A Yahoos here will be VERY LONELY soon.
Ammo is available; I get notices from Cheaper Than Dirt, all the time, among others.
My Ammo List:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=liberty+ammo
http://www.armslist.com/
http://www.sgammo.com/
http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=shurefire+magazines&ksubmit=y
http://www.ammoman.com/
http://www.federalpremium.com/default.aspx
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/
http://www.corbon.com/
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php
http://www.hksspeedloaders.com/Index.html
http://www.luckygunner.com/
http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/.50_Beowulf-Ammunition.html
http://wilsoncombat.com/new/default.asp
http://shop.ammocanmagnets.com/50-cal-size-Black-Font_c11.htm
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XCanM2A1&name=New+Mil.+Spec.+M2A1+.50cal+Ammo+Cans&groupid=614
http://www.impactguns.com/nemo-omen-300-win-match-rifle-omen-match.aspx
http://www.gunbot.net/
http://www.theboxotruth.com/#13519954922231&ifh=44
http://www.black-hills.com/
http://www.hornady.com/
http://www.nosler.com/
http://ammoseek.com/
http://www.outbackammo.com.au/
http://www.freedommunitions.com/
http://www.bulkammo.com/
http://ammo.net/
http://www.surefire.com/tactical-equipment/high-capacity-magazines.html
http://www.cabelas.com/ghome.jsp?WT.srch=1&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=google%7CHamburg+PA_Brand%7CUSA&rid=20&WT.z_mc_id1=43000000131123705&pcrid=13985066839&gclid=CNHYws7x57gCFUui4AodMlAAKw&gclsrc=aw.ds
http://www.maglula.com/
https://www.buffalobore.com/
http://www.barnesbullets.com/
http://www.doubletapammo.net/
http://www.grafs.com/retail/index/index
http://www.midwayusa.com/
http://www.natchezss.com/
http://gun-deals.com/ammo
http://www.lehighdefense.com/index.php/shop/ammunition/controlled-chaos/102/300-whisper-high-velocity-controlled-chaos-detail
http://www.ammunitiondepot.com/Liberty-Civil-Defense-45-ACP-78-Gr-Lead-Free-Ammo-p/liberty45.htm
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazines/ar-15-m16-60-100-round-magazines-prod42026.aspx
http://libertyammunition.com/
http://www.vetmadeammo.net/home.html
https://www.sgammo.com/product/federal-ammo-sale/500-round-case-45-acp-auto-federal-american-eagle-230-grain-fmj-ae45a100-l
https://gundigest.com/gear-ammo/ammunition/fading-away-the-45-acp-isnt-going-anywhere
https://bulkmunitions.com/
https://libertyammo.com/
http://ammo.com/
http://www.freedommunitions.com/Pallet-Ammo-s/55280.htm#
https://doubletapammo.com/
Oh I know there’s plenty ammo available but the thread isn’t about that.
Methinks that if the PLCAA is repealed, ammo manufacturers won't all go out of business, but ammo prices will make today's $1 per round for 9mm look like a bargain.
It's the new bitcoin, I wish I stocked up more.
Would be a terrible thing but then again, cigarette makers survived. Just need better lawyers.
Posters 5,6,9,10 were alluding to it. Just trying to be help with the List.
BWAhahaha nobody in their right mind buys from CTD!
Maybe 10-15 years ago! lol
They are the biggest price gouging rip-offs on the planet
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