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I had no idea that wokeness had hit Sci Fi. Well, that explains the stupid stories I’ve read recently...filled with “diversity” of every kind, but lacking imagination, plot, character development and science.

Well, back to the golden age authors for me....I really hate millennials.


6 posted on 06/24/2021 3:23:37 PM PDT by Whatever Works
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Well, back to the golden age authors for me....I really hate millennials.

I have been working my way through the really old Heinlein books.

7 posted on 06/24/2021 3:32:14 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Whatever Works
I had no idea that wokeness had hit Sci Fi.

Since the 90's, pretty much. Better to re-read Heinlein and Asimov than struggle through today's endless parade of Green Feminist Wokeness.

8 posted on 06/24/2021 3:42:22 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Whatever Works

Oh, yes. Google “Sad Puppies” sometime for the whole sordid story. For Golden Age flavor, I recommend John C. Wright, (sometimes) Evan Currie, and a good chunk of the Kindle Unlimited sci-fi section. Declan Finn looks pretty good so far, though he’s more in the urban fantasy department. Lots and lots of independent authors are self-publishing to get around the wokies. “Superversive” and “human wave” are a couple good keywords to surf on if you’re looking for non-nihilistic SJW work.


11 posted on 06/24/2021 3:48:01 PM PDT by MightyMama
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Fonda Lee’s “Jade City” was a good read - but the next book had a gay sex scene. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


15 posted on 06/24/2021 3:56:54 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Whatever Works

wokeness....

Yes, indeed for a long time now. Harlan Ellison refused to attend anything in a state that had not ratified the Equal Rights Amendment when it was alive.

Mar-Apr, 2021 issue of Analog has a bold and slashing attack against the presidency of Donald Trump, his supporters the hopeless rube morons (us) and the bright new hope by overturning traditional patriotism and America First insanity under the Dems. Sheesh!
Editor got “many” subscription cancellations and subsequently devoted a few pages to letting readers take swings at him.

But his magazine represents the last place where Larry Niven and similar authors would have regularly found a home. Asimov’s SF and F&SF have actually requested story submissions of gender changing, same sex couples in love and diversity. Total virtue signaling. Also climate change propaganda.


18 posted on 06/24/2021 4:05:52 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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If you click on my name I give briefs comments on some of my favorite science fiction—novels and short stories.


34 posted on 06/24/2021 5:14:53 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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This is why the Dragon Awards came into being.


39 posted on 06/24/2021 6:43:33 PM PDT by rstrahan
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#6 You outta have read the Star Trek novels from over 20 years ago. I would buy one and ended up skimming thru many pages to find something about Star Trek. I eventually threw out the novels I had saved, just no good.

I have many science fiction books from the old masters but nothing from the last few decades. Kinda how movies and tv shows and music and sports have all degraded.


44 posted on 06/24/2021 9:04:11 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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