Posted on 10/16/2021 10:05:33 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
Because they’re bigots.
And look where that's gotten us.
Actually, I think the ancient churches are also traditionally theocratic. The "individual" thing is mostly Protestant (and "enlightenment").
No. Not at all. Ancient Israel wasn't individualist in the modern classical liberal way, but neither was Medieval Europe under Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.
It was Xianity that claimed Ancient Israel's legacy and relegated Jews to being their irreverent, free-thinking bad guys. Most American Jews, being secular, actually accept this and believe their whole purpose is the decriminalization of transgression.
“My Jewish friends and neighbors still think they are voting for FDR when they vote Democrat.”
That’s a big part of it. As if THAT was such a great idea in the first place.
And the US Constitution is more Bible-based than you give it credit for. Why do you think the left hates it so much?
Oh yes. America is the new holy chosen nation of the restored one true Protestant religion and Tom Paine and Thomas Jefferson were G-d-anointed "apostles." Why, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are Divinely inspired![/heavy sarcasm]
The Talmud is merely the Oral Torah written down at a specific point in time when it was in danger of being lost. Of course, that probably means nothing to you. Let it just be said that vowels and punctuation are not part of the Written Torah at all, and without the (unwritten) laws on how to write a Torah Scroll there'd be no Bible at all today.
What do you think about Catholics and Orthodox "replacing" the "new testament" with the church fathers and the Summa Theologica???
I wonder if it’s just a function of where Jews tend to live. I mean is there any other group that lives in urban areas at the rate Jews tend to do that vote any differently than Jews? I once tried to find the the exit polling for rural living Jews vs urban/suburban living Jews but failed.
Freegards
False assumption. Replacement “theology” is anti-God.
And please take thought for the lost ten tribes, who are themselves not replaced.
That's a big part of it. It's similar for Catholics, who tend to live in the older urban states, and for Asians who largely live where Jews live, in big cities and their suburbs. But I don't think it's the whole story, since Jews have been more solidly Democrat than either Catholics or Asians.
With Catholics you have whole states that basically reverse their political split. Catholics in one state will vote much differently than another state, basically following the red/southern state and blue northern state pattern. I think New Mexico and Louisiana Catholics had their voting pattern reversed in one Presidential election. It doesn’t follow like that for Jews as far as I can tell. You need exit polling for Jews by state and a lot of states don’t exit poll for that.
Freegards
I believe the OT and NT are equally important collections of books. The NT writers drilled into the actual meaning in the OT. Each book in our NT and our Septuagint were written to the people who lived when it was written, but it was also written “for” the generations to come. But we err when we interpret it with a 21st century world view. It’s position on slavery and “science” are just two examples.
But I see it as written by men Inspired by God. That is, I see it as both divine and human.
I’m not being correctly understood here. It’s hard to put all nuances of my beliefs here in a few short posts on a forum.
You and I agree more than you think. You can say Talmud, OT, or whatever other word you want to describe the Law under which the Jewish theocracy existed, depending on the audience.
I've always understood it to mean Jewish or Christian.
Everything in the article is spot on.
I boil it down to a red pill blue pill sort of deal. It takes a certain mindset and personality to see behind the curtain. Most people Jews or non-Jews are not willing to take the red pill. Easier to agree with everone at the Thanksgiving table and repeat what you’re told on NPR.
It’s really no moe complicated than that.
This is true. To secular Jews socialism is their religion and government is their temple.
No matter how many times they’ve been victims of socialists (the Nazis and Russian Communists/Socialists) they still vote for them.
Let’s take on the responsibility of informing the people in our own areas, ourselves. It may take some time, effort, and funds, but truth must start to pour out, on the local grassroot level. Together, we can get this all important task of informing people done.
I dislike this “Jews vote X” or “Evangelicals vote Y”
We are individuals, we make individual choices.
It is the Democrats who want “vote according to your caste”
Some Jews (may be even most) vote D, but that is not “Jews vote”
You ARE a Jew ethnically if your name is Goldberg or Marx. Karl’s father converted, but Karl was Jewish by ethnicity.
Rabbinical Judaism is today mainly a ethno-religion. During the time of Christ there were gentiles who converted to Judaism (a noted Roman of the Imperial Flavian dynasty was among these converts), but that number dwindled.
Rabbinical Judaism is mainly ethno-religious i.e. you are born into the Jewish ethnicity, whatever your religion.
This is similar to the Druze - like George Clooney’s wife Amal Alamuddin. All reports are that she doesn’t practice the faith, but she is born into it.
This is similar to Parsis - like Freddie Mercury/Faroukh Balsara who was born a Zoroastrian but seems not to have practiced.
This is true for Alawis, for Yazidis, for Mandaens, and to a large extent for Armenian Orthodox, for Copts, etc.
“Most of those laws align with bjorn again..” —> err.. NO, they do not.
Rabbinical Judaism has a deep corpus of work in the Talmud. The Talmud is the Oral Torah of the Pharisees with 400 years of dialogue between the various Rabbis of Babylon, Egypt etc.
Pick it up - it is highly complex and very logical reading.
But it is not “aligned with bjorn again” — no siree.
Who is “their friend”?
And if you’re talking about Jesus/God, then note that the early Church was mainly Jewish. Christianity remained a Jewish sect until 132 AD when it split with the OTHER Jewish sect, Rabbinical Judaism.
Israel i.e. Jews largely BECAME “Christian” i.e. followers of the way, by 67 AD. Why do you think the “Christ followers” were such a threat to the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin??
Remember also that to Paul and to the other Jews of the first century it was NOT A CONVERSION from one religion to another, but a change of thinking from Rabbinical or Sadducee or ... Jewish thinking to Christ-way Jewish thinking.
Jesus didn’t create a new religion - Jesus fulfilled Judaism and we are all now children of Abraham - GALATIANS 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendant, heirs according to the promise.
Jesus’ kingdom was already inaugurated in 33 AD at the Pentecost.
Note in the book of Acts
20”25 “
“But now I know that none of you to whom I preached the kingdom during my travels will ever see my face again.”
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