Posted on 02/04/2022 8:53:43 AM PST by TigerClaws
LOL!
You can’t make this stuff up... be she can!
Just remember what a vile Demonrat she is. She admitted to having ‘5 or 6’ abortions.
I go by what happens in MY FAMILY! NOT DISSING ANYONE! MY HUSBAND IS JEWISH!
‘The View’ found a subject that’s not about race: The Holocaust.
Whoopie found a white person who’s not racist: Adolph Hitler.
Who says that Jews view Jesus as a “great prophet?” I am Jewish and know that most Jews don’t view him that way.
And Whoopi Goldberg is as Jewish as the Pope.
That is what I heard and read years ago. So how do you view Jesus?
That is what I heard and read years ago. So how do you view Jesus?
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As a very distant cousin who was mostly a good guy, who was very idealistic (in wanting to get rid of the Roman-induced corruption of the Priesthood)…but foolish to allow himself to come to the attention of the Romans as a revolutionary. Got himself killed for it…and then his followers (starting with Paul, but continuing for literally centuries) completely changed his message and even went against the Torah that Jesus himself said would not change one “jot or tittle” until the final redemption (which we haven’t seen yet).
As a (potential) prophet, he sucked. The test to even have a shot at being called a prophet is that each and every one of your prophecies has to be true in every detail. Well, Jesus said to his followers that the final redemption would come before some of them tasted death. WRONG! Oh, and necessary prerequisites for the final redemption include world peace, the universal recognition of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as the one and only deity, the ingathering of ALL Jewish exiles and the building of the 3rd Temple. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG and WRONG - not a single one of those things happened during his life, shortly thereafter or at any time in the nearly 2000 years since then. So…NOT a prophet of any kind.
He was also not born of a virgin (that’s a deliberate mistranslation of a passage that was taken completely out of context), and was not THE messiah for many reasons, including his unqualified genealogy and his failure to do ANYTHING required of that person, as laid out in Jewish scriptures. That failure, btw, is exactly why every Christian talks about a do-over (the “2nd coming”), because they KNOW that he failed. FYI, this also shows the Christian theologians can’t count - because according to them he lived (1st coming), died and came back (that’s 2) without accomplishing anything, and is still expected to come back (that would be the THIRD coming). By that standard (incorrect genealogy and a couple failures), pretty much ANYBODY could be THE messiah.
Anyone (of any religion) wanting to know more about the Jewish perspective on Jesus and the religion created by his followers should go to YouTube and watch either Rabbi Tovia Singer or Jews for Judaism. Both of their channels have a wealth of information, backed by specific references to both Jewish and Christian scriptures.
I appreciate your taking the time to impart this to me.
My thinking of Jesus has been evolving for the last few years independently of what you have told me, so I was moving in the right direction.
I grew up in the Episcopal Church which has changed so radically in the last 30 years I no longer claim it.
My Mother had a cousin who always felt she was Jewish and come to find out somewhere in our family tree someone did marry a person of Jewish Faith so I may have a few drops and I have always felt close to the Jewish people. I grew up in Arkansas and with a lot of wonderful Jewish people. I even attended Temple a few times.
I have considered converting, my Mother’s cousin actually did convert and became a Messianic Jew. I would need to investigate more on this.
Thanks again for the information.
“That is not correct, the Jews do not consider Jesus as the son of God, they view him as a great Prophet. And Jesus was Jewish.”
No, sorry. Jewish or not, no one who is apart from the Blood of Jesus Christ has any connection to God.
You may be wrong
See post 66
You’re very welcome. I am always happy to see someone come closer to Gid by reading the Bible and using the greatest gift that we have (other than our very lives), our brain. It has been said by the Sages over many centuries that the Torah speaks to every person in every culture in every time - if they’re willing to listen.
FYI, Messianic “Judaism “ is not Judaism, because it accepts Jesus as Messiah and worships him accordingly. In Judaism, NO person is worshipped, only God. They may be more akin to the original followers of Jesus (during and shortly after his life), but even they would view Messianics as apostates from Judaism. I would very much encourage you to watch a few of Rabbi Singer’s videos on the subject to learn more. He has spent his entire career fighting Messianic Judaism, because it pulls many uninformed Jews to Christianity.
Thanks I will.
“You may be wrong See post 66”
No, not wrong.
Go back and study the Council of Nicene that Emperor Constantine convened, much of Christianity’s beliefs come from that and the decisions they made.
There are books of the Bible most of us have never read because they were not included in what we now see.
“o back and study the Council of Nicene that Emperor Constantine convened, much of Christianity’s beliefs come from that and the decisions they made. There are books of the Bible most of us have never read because they were not included in what we now see.”
No, there are not “books of the Bible” that are not included IN the Bible.
And again, apart from the Blood of Christ shed on the Cross, there is NO COMMUNICATION between God and a person. God is a spirit, interaction with Him must be done spiritually. People who are not born again possess a spirit that is dead to God because of sin, there is ZERO communication going on there with God. Those people are, spiritually speaking, “of their father, the devil”.
There most certainly books that have not been published, you are stuck in the dogma of your beliefs and they allow you no contemplation of other theories and possibilities. Theology has many theories and interpretations, the Bible is very subjective in interpretation. So because Jews don’t believe what you think are they cast out, what hypocrisy and supreme Irony.
Are you totally insecure with your beliefs and unable to accept any other truths.
“Here is a list”
No, there are no missing “books of the Bible”. The Holy Spirit was perfectly able to compile the written Word of the living God as He intends it to be.
YOU are free to believe any nonsense about it you want to, for now.
Books of the bible were written by man.
“Books of the bible were written by man.”
As directed by the Holy Spirit. Again, you are free to believe whatever you like about the written Word of the living God, for now.
Rd later.
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