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To: Golden Eagle
That said, Trump has had over two years, and $250 Million donated to him specifically to find out and present exactly what happened, and he has completely failed in conclusively proving anything illegal.

If you can't get a court to look at it, you can't prove anything. You blame Trump for our utterly garbage courts? They've been around long before him.

Ignoring the ridiculous courts and looking at the evidence directly, it is very clear that the elections in several swing states were completely rigged.

He never even really tried. He disappeared right after the election and went to work on his new website, where it’s apparent he believes just using a megaphone to whine into an echo chamber of disciples is more effective for maintaining control of his base than ever actually proving anything to the world at large.

Let me guess. You are on the DeSantis bandwagon? This stuff only makes sense if you want to believe that's what happened, but it makes no sense if you keep up with the reality of what happened.

But those that expect some actual proof, will continue to have just enough doubt that they don’t want to hear more whining about it,...

After all the numerous articles posted here on Free Republic have shown the proof over and over and over again, how can anyone that is on Free Republic still pretend that the evidence isn't massive and very conclusive?

95% of all military Ballots in Arizona went to Biden? Does that even make sense to you? That's like a Joseph Stalin election. It is false on the face of it.

The most damning thing besides Trump never providing any actual evidence, is that Trump hasn’t done a single thing to try to secure elections going forward,

And what is it you are imaging Trump can do about crooked elections in swing states? The people of those swing states have to do something, Trump can only urge them to do something, which seems to me exactly what he has been doing.

65 posted on 05/27/2023 10:44:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
If you can't get a court to look at it, you can't prove anything.

The courts all told him, one after another, over and over, you can't contest an election until the election is decided, and you have actual damages that you can show which give you legal standing. Yes I know to the average layman that doesn't make sense, but that is the law.

Ask Kari Lake. When the same issue recently came up in Arizona (because Trump hasn't done squat to help fix the problems there), she told everyone that she had to wait until the election was officially decided before she could file her lawsuit, which she then did as soon as legally possible.

So what did Trump do, once the election was decided (Jan 7)? He took the $250M that had just been donated to him to contest the election, and went off to Silicon Valley to build a new website, instead.

After all the numerous articles posted here on Free Republic have shown the proof over and over and over again, how can anyone that is on Free Republic still pretend that the evidence isn't massive and very conclusive?

Sure, I've seen a lot of stuff, already stated in this thread twice I have evidence of my own that's right there on my FR homepage and has been for 2.5 years now. But none of it came from Trump. He's not done a single thing to quantify and present anything himself, and more importantly, he clearly has no plan to do anything about it in the future either.

Sure, he'll wave his hands in the air during some rally and say we should only allow same day, in person voting, but that's the same empty promise he made back before 2020. Didn't help then and it won't help now.

95% of all military Ballots in Arizona went to Biden? Does that even make sense to you?

Doesn't sound legit to me. So what has Trump done about it? You do know that it is very important to start investigations quickly, while the trail of evidence is hot, not still be complaining two and a half years later while having done nothing.

The people of those swing states have to do something, Trump can only urge them to do something

Ridiculous. You don't know about George Soros having his own political storefront organization and boots on the ground in every swing state? Zuckerberg too, unfortunately guys like that have just outsmarted and outperformed Trump, who is all talk. Yeah he's a good talker, but talk is cheap, too. And the same old message gets old after while. Show me some progress on securing elections, not just the victim card all the time. He put mostly crooks in office while he was there anyway, so no wonder it got stolen.

67 posted on 05/27/2023 11:15:32 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Do you really believe DeSantis wants to raise sales taxes by 23% as Trump claims in his big new ad?)
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To: DiogenesLamp
They've been around long before him.

Found in the memory hole:

More than 4,000 votes vanished without a trace into a computer’s overloaded memory in one North Carolina county, and about a hundred paper ballots were thrown out by mistake in another. In Texas, a county needed help from a laboratory in Canada to unlock the memory of a touch-screen machine and unearth five dozen votes.

In other places, machine undercounting or overcounting of votes was a problem. Several thousand votes were mistakenly double-counted in North Carolina, Ohio, Nebraska, and Washington state. Some votes in other areas were at first credited to the wrong candidates, with one Indiana county, by some quirk, misallocating several hundred votes for Democrats to Libertarians. In Florida, some machines temporarily indicated votes intended for challenger John F. Kerry were for President Bush, and vice versa.

In the month since the election, serious instances of voting machine problems or human errors in ballot counts have been documented in at least a dozen states, each involving from scores of ballots to as many as 12,000 votes, as in a North Carolina county...local officials discovered problems and corrected final counts. In some cases, the changes altered the outcomes of local races. But in North Carolina, the problems were so serious that the state may hold a rare second vote..

Since 2000, watchdog groups have intensified their monitoring and cataloging of complaints and errors. The nonpartisan Verified Voting Foundation and other groups built a database of more than 30,000 ‘’election incidents” reported across the country this year. Most were routine, but nearly 900 involved significant e-voting problems, including malfunctions that shut down machines, lengthening waits at the polls. There were 42 reports of total breakdowns of machines in New Orleans and 28 in Philadelphia and ‘’15 reports of catastrophic machine failure” in Mercer County, Pa. [http://archive.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/12/01/voting_errors_tallied_nationwide?pg=full]

See also, “THIS DAY IN HISTORY: Election results between Al Gore and George Bush too close to call” [https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/presidential-election-al-gore-george-bush-too-close-to-call On December 12 Gore conceded to Bush] Also,

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/19/2004-kerry-election-fraud-2020-448604:

Steven Freeman felt, in his bones, that something was wrong with the election. It was November 2, 2004, and the exit polls had predicted an overwhelming victory for Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry. But as the night rolled on, the margins grew for President George W. Bush—especially in Ohio, where the race remained uncalled as the clock ticked into the wee morning hours.
For most of the world, the uncertainty didn’t last. Kerry conceded the next day, making a cordial call to Bush, after concluding that a recount in Ohio wouldn’t change the outcome of the race. But Freeman, then a research scholar at the University of Pennsylvania, remembers wondering, “How could this be?” He dug around for the exit poll numbers he had fleetingly seen on TV. Then he went down a rabbit hole of statistical analysis, in search of explanations for the Bush votes that seemed to have magically appeared. A week after the election, he shared a draft of his findings with colleagues, with the conclusion that “fraud was an unavoidable hypothesis.” His analysis wound up spreading widely, drawing thousands of responses from around the country: people who believed, as he did, that the election had been stolen...
With a political will fueled by images of hanging chads and squinting Florida poll workers, Congress in 2002 passed the bipartisan Help America Vote Act, or HAVA. The act required states to set up voter registration databases, voter identification procedures and provisional ballots for people whose names didn’t show up on the rolls at their home precincts. It also helped local districts purchase the latest in voting technology: optical scan ballot-readers and touch-screen machines that would, in theory, eliminate the human error and potential fraud inherent in paper counting. Even so, the Kerry campaign was prepared for a fight: It had assembled a nationwide network of lawyers to fight post-election battles, if necessary...
But people like Freeman, who dug into the exit poll numbers, also circulated a darker theory, centered on fraud that occurred after the vote—via those high-tech voting machines, whose results couldn’t be verified against an independent paper trail. Questions about why the exit polls were so inaccurate—which the mainstream media and even the pollsters attributed to flawed polling methodology—led others to spin out theories ... those who believed that the election had been stolen got no help from the mainstream press, where even left-leaning outlets wouldn’t take up the idea of a vast web of fraud. - https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/19/2004-kerry-election-fraud-2020-448604

85 posted on 05/28/2023 11:16:17 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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