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'Oppenheimer' Spends a Lot of Time 'Big Picture' Moralizing and Soft-Pedaling Communists
Red State ^ | 08/05/2023 | Jim Thompson

Posted on 08/05/2023 6:15:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/05/2023 6:15:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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This essay makes me not want to see Oppenheimer that much more.


2 posted on 08/05/2023 6:26:35 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain ("No matter where you go, there you are.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Saw it last week. Very disappointed. I’ve done extensive reading on the Manhattan Project and the people who made it happen. The movie tried to assume that Oppenheimer was brilliant without any supporting narrative beyond a short bit about his work on black holes. Total waste of three hours.


3 posted on 08/05/2023 6:27:06 PM PDT by 6ppc (Democrats would have to climb Everest to reach the level of "scum of the earth")
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To: SeekAndFind
It tracks the oft-used illustration of how communists were “ruined” just for being communists. It never mentions that most American communists were counting on and willing to foment a Soviet-style revolution in America.

So what? Even if they only wanted to steal power using legal electoral means, it's still a great theft of individual freedom and an exultation of the state over the person. They're still communists. It's the actual goal that's repugnant regardless of what their chosen means may be.

4 posted on 08/05/2023 6:28:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It went on and on and on. So dull. Endless hearings about Strauss, for no apparent reason but to Garner Downey Jr. A supporting Oscar nom.
Even the nuke blast test was anticlimactic. Would have made a better mini series or something on the history channel.


5 posted on 08/05/2023 6:29:42 PM PDT by montag813
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To: 6ppc
If you want a REALLY good movie about the Manhattan Project, you can find the CBS television movie Day One, on DVD at Amazon.

Absolutely amazing film. Brian Dennehey played Leslie Groves. It was a well cast movie. Even if you aren't a nuclear physicist it's very easy to follow the technical developments along.

6 posted on 08/05/2023 6:41:35 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain ("No matter where you go, there you are.")
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I saw the movie a few days ago and I thought it was ok. I agree it soft pedals communism as all the movies I’ve seen about the Manhattan Project seem to do. It was no surprise. I’m sure it will get some kind of Oscar. Hollywood loves its commie martyrs.


7 posted on 08/05/2023 6:42:06 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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“Absolutely amazing film. Brian Dennehey played Leslie Groves.”

I loved that movie. Of course, I have a thing for Brian Dennehy and his acting.


8 posted on 08/05/2023 6:46:16 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: SeekAndFind

The story of Oppenheimer’s rise, fall, and resurrection is, like the man, extremely complex. The film compresses the voluminous American Prometheus book reasonably well, but Nolan had to jam a lot of short dialog lines over Goransson’s score and it would have helped to have closed captions.

The use of IMAX and the use of black and white for the Strauss storyline didn’t really add much to the film and seemed to be superfluous.

It is clear from the book that American Communism was a naive club for useful idiots including Oppenheimer until he tried to negotiate with Stalin’s reps on a nuclear treaty and they gave him the finger.

Communism was a proxy for liberal causes like civil rights, labor rights, and the anti-Fascist Spanish Republic. Russia was viewed as our ally against Hitler in WWII rather than the murderous gulag that Stalin was actually running.

Most, but not all, of the true believers realized how stupid they had been to join the party, but when the Cold War started, they were caught on the wrong side of history and paid a terrible price.


9 posted on 08/05/2023 7:06:36 PM PDT by Dave Wright (i)
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I saw it the other night.

It was 3 hours.

It was loud ( sound levels were all over the place).

They made the poor russkies out to be the country relations who we didn’t want to share.

Did I mention it was 3 hours long?


10 posted on 08/05/2023 7:09:33 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Read an article yesterday about the sound in Nolan's movies. He admits that they are hard to understand at times, he attributes it to how noisy the IMAX cameras are. And yet the man refuses to employ ADR to make the dialogue discernible.

I saw his movie Tenet a few years ago and I could barely make out what anyone was saying in that, either.

11 posted on 08/05/2023 7:15:06 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain ("No matter where you go, there you are.")
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Despite the fact that the movie takes place after the Soviet Union’s testing of an atomic bomb, not a single word is mentioned about Julius and Ethel Rosenberg and her brother David Greenglas all of whom were communists.


12 posted on 08/05/2023 7:18:17 PM PDT by euram (allALL)
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I liked the Batman movies, and Memento, but Dunkirk was horrible, and I guess I was too stupid for Inception and Tenet.


13 posted on 08/05/2023 7:20:01 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I sat near him in a restaurant once…..in Boston .

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14 posted on 08/05/2023 7:27:59 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A true movie about this subject would expose how the arch- Traitor fdr had red spies crawling all throuought the Government, and then call Joe McCarthy a hero.


15 posted on 08/05/2023 8:51:16 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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I don’t understand all the ha-bub about this Oppenheimer movie. I saw the trailer when I saw “Sound of Freedom.” I felt like I pretty much saw the movie after seeing the trailer. I hate artsy-fartsy movies.


16 posted on 08/05/2023 9:08:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("There's no cryin' in baseball and there's no ethics in politics!" )
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Giving a dead man a security clearance is nothing new for the far left freak show. There are a lot of jugheads working for FJB who could never have passed a security clearance 20 years ago. Does anyone really think the loony Sammy Brinson could have ever passed a real security clearance. I don’t think so.


17 posted on 08/05/2023 9:12:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("There's no cryin' in baseball and there's no ethics in politics!" )
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I’m a big Nolan fan, so I did see it. It’s excellent technically and the performances are excellent. Frankly I’m surprised that Nolan treated communism with kid gloves. He’s supposed to be a conservative, and his past projects didn’t reveal any left wing biases. If anything, his Batman movies had conservative ideas. Bane and his movement represent a leftist mob similar to Antifa.


18 posted on 08/06/2023 1:58:33 AM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: Mears

For his job, DH often takes between LA and San Fran. Sometimes Dennehy would be on those flights — scrunched in to one of those Southwest planes.


19 posted on 08/06/2023 3:03:11 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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Is ANYBODY surprised by any of this? As soon as I heard of the making of this film I shook my head and wrote it off.


20 posted on 08/06/2023 4:49:26 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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