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Federal Judge Sides With Osage Nation, Orders Removal Of 84 Wind Turbines
Substack ^ | December 23, 2023 | Robert Bryce

Posted on 12/26/2023 12:00:41 PM PST by billorites

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To: SeeSharp

The holes to fill with concrete pads are deep, and large in sq footage. Imagine the costs of digging them up? I think the base is about 50 feet in diameter, and 1 1/2 to 2 stories deep. To say nothing of the roads needed. When they build these on land that can support crops, they are permanently removing that land from usage forever.


21 posted on 12/26/2023 1:09:37 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Revel

I hope they collect damages on all the sacred eagles, owls, hawks and falcons that have been so wrongfully and maliciously slaughtered with full knowledge that this was a likely result.


22 posted on 12/26/2023 1:13:38 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: billorites

Can’t we make a deal with the injuns that we damn well stick to!?


23 posted on 12/26/2023 1:19:27 PM PST by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Glad2bnuts
Lot's of hubris from the multinational corp.


24 posted on 12/26/2023 1:20:20 PM PST by Theoria
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To: AndyJackson

Amen...


25 posted on 12/26/2023 1:22:56 PM PST by skinny old man (Still lurking and posting after all these years(27 yrs ?)(more ?)(seems like more...))
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To: No name given
Hopefully good old fashioned nuclear power, or coal and natural gas. I’m guessing number two. Wind and solar don’t provide that much power to begin with.

Given the impending competency crisis as skilled technicians are replaced by diversity hires, I'm not so keen on nuclear power these days.

26 posted on 12/26/2023 1:23:32 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: Theoria

Wow, I had no idea...


27 posted on 12/26/2023 2:09:25 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Drew68

Georgia has 3 operating power plants. One of them was lit this year and the two others are decades old.

A fourth power plant is slated to be lit in the first quarter of 2024, however, GA Power keeps raising rates. Another rate
increase is planned for 2024 to cover cost overages.


28 posted on 12/26/2023 2:19:30 PM PST by Dacula
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To: billorites

Wind power is so stupid. Nuclear is the only thing America should be investing in right now.


29 posted on 12/26/2023 2:28:06 PM PST by montag813
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To: SeeSharp

It doesn’t matter. The Indians owned the mineral rights and the company ignored their property rights. I hope it bankrupts them.


30 posted on 12/26/2023 2:39:50 PM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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Federal Judge Sides With Osage Nation, Orders Removal Of 84 Wind Turbines

A BIG step and a GOOD step in the RIGHT direction!

WHY do I say that? Because most of these "Green Energy" deals have NOT really benefited the public... they've been NOTHING more than MONEY MAKING deals for GREEDY investors.

Trump recently aptly coined the phrase "Green Energy Scam" while speaking at a massive rally... and he's Right!

31 posted on 12/26/2023 2:54:56 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Glad2bnuts

That still doesn’t quite make sense. Suppose I wanted to build a building with a basement. I wouldn’t expect to need to have mineral rights to do that.


32 posted on 12/26/2023 3:03:01 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

If you wanted to build that building using concrete made from sand and gravel that you stole, because you thought it would be cheaper to steal it on site than buy it elsewhere and have it shipped in by truck, you would be in violation of the property rights of the true owners of the sand and gravel.


33 posted on 12/26/2023 4:03:54 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: No name given

I think 1 windmill = 1 megawatt & 1 acre of solar = 1 megawatt of power.


34 posted on 12/26/2023 4:40:44 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: metmom

I don’t want it either. Those windmills kill birds. Plus they are inefficient.


35 posted on 12/26/2023 5:00:42 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: piasa

That still doesn’t make any sense. If I dig a hole to make a foundation and a basement where would the removed soil end up? Usually it gets trucked out and dumped somewhere. I’ve never heard of anyone needing mining rights to do that though.


36 posted on 12/26/2023 5:54:30 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: DesertRhino

IIRC, the Iroquois Indians have a similar policy on their reservation.

The tribe owns the land but the landowner is free to do what they want with the top 6-12 inches. Any deeper and the members need tribal permission to dig.


37 posted on 12/26/2023 6:10:29 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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