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The Dragon Is the Only Mythical Animal on the Chinese Zodiac—or Is It?
Answers in Genesis ^ | 2/10/24 | Troy Lacey

Posted on 02/11/2024 6:03:24 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

Chinese New Year 2024 will fall on Saturday, February 10, 2024. This means the Year of the Rabbit ends on February 9, and the Year of the Dragon (which coincidentally, this author is a member of) starts on February 10 according to the Chinese zodiac. Unlike the Gregorian calendar where New Year’s Day consistently occurs on January 1, the date of Chinese New Year changes every year, but it always falls between January 21 and February 20, usually the second new moon after the winter solstice. And unlike the usual one-day holiday for New Year’s (or two days for New Year’s Eve and Day), China’s public holiday for Lunar New Year is eight days, from Chinese New Year’s Eve to the sixth day of the lunar calendar new year.

Why an Article About a Chinese Zodiac Sign? Don’t worry, we’re not going to discuss what type of personality traits, best career choices, or the lucky (or unlucky) status of someone born under the dragon sign. We obviously don’t give credence to astrology. But there is an interesting and creation-themed reason for covering this topic which we will unpack below.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; History; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: adriennemayor; astronomy; ccp; china; chinesenewyear; firstfossilhunters; paleontology; science; the1stfossilhunters; zodiac

1 posted on 02/11/2024 6:03:24 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I’m not so sure. It sure sounds like God described one in Job 41.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2041&version=ESV


2 posted on 02/11/2024 6:10:51 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Not same but similar (the article mentions the generation of Babel moving eastward....) but similarly, when Genesis mentions:

Genesis 25:5-6 New Living Translation (NLT)
Abraham gave everything he owned to his son Isaac. But before he died, he gave gifts to the sons of his concubines and sent them off to a land in the east, away from Isaac.

The Jewish commentaries say the “gifts” were “impure names of G-d,” ie, the power of “magics” etc... manipulating physicality (but in an improper way.) So something akin to fighting powers/martial arts/mysticism.


3 posted on 02/11/2024 6:22:30 PM PST by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
In Việt Nam the government decreed years ago that Tết lasts three days! Well some small number of folks, mostly the officers of big and/or foreign companies and the army, keep it to three days, but everyone else does the 8 days at least. In Hà Nội most of the small shops shut down and the firecrackers keep going for up to a month.
4 posted on 02/11/2024 6:31:09 PM PST by ThanhPhero
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To: Phinneous

That really doesn’t seem to fit with what is known about Abraham. It makes no sense that he’d have anything to do with impure names of God nor be able to confer mystical powers on others.


5 posted on 02/11/2024 6:43:24 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

There is no reason to believe that “dragons” did not exist.

there are lots of extinct animals

I am not so sure about the breathing flames, but perhaps their breath was really bad.


6 posted on 02/11/2024 6:50:23 PM PST by algore
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To: algore
Seems to me dragons are science; e.g. people used to think there were dragons was because they looked at dinosaur bones and theorized that the whole critter looked something like a dragon. Science progresses and we have a better idea of what the critters leaving those bones were like, but still we are not sure of all the details.

Science never quite arrives at the truth about the natural world, but over time it tends to get closer to it.

The most cautious investigators of old bones who did not speculate about the critters breathing fire were likely not as popularly attended to as those that did. There was "junk science" in old times just as there is now.

7 posted on 02/11/2024 7:16:06 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: metmom

The idea conveyed is that he gave the power as “gifts” to protect themselves. While the pure tradition/mysticism he gave to Isaac.

While we’re on “what is known about Abraham,” does your church believe he smashed his father’s idols? Or that Nimrod threw him into a fire (which he miraculously survived,) or any of what the Jewish Midrash (commentary) calls the ten trials of Abraham? (Culminating in the binding of Isaac.)


8 posted on 02/11/2024 8:05:52 PM PST by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

When I lived in LA and later in SF, I really enjoyed the Chinese New Year parades. And the little red envelopes with a $2 bill inside for good luck.


9 posted on 02/11/2024 8:12:13 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

And today on God’s calendar was His Day of the New Moon,the 1st day of His 6th month in the days of Noah, or His 12th month, in the days of Moses.

And the answer to why the New Moon Day was taught to be different than His 6 Work Days and Sabbath has the answer in Genesis 1:1, John 1:1 and John 1:14.


10 posted on 02/11/2024 8:18:53 PM PST by delchiante
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To: AndyTheBear

I agree. I’m not even sure some flying reptiles did not coexist with man. Herodotus has a lot of interesting and specific information about dragons that made me think it is possible.

We mock ancient sources at some risk. They said the same thing about Troy and the Mycenian cities and king and wars. They found Troy miles inland since the sea has gone down, and know from archaeology they had advanced civilizations without a written language, etc. They managed to dig tunnels through a mountain to meet in the middle in those times.

Interesting things you would likely never find today were lying on the surface in prehistory, such as native gold and metals, meteorites, etc, when the human population was very low and always had been.

Maybe the flood happened, but it was an ice age, viewed through oral history passed down through millenia of people who couldn’t conceive of devastation from ice, and probably the meanings of the words in their stories shift to weather they had experienced. Perhaps the Ark people sailed to safety to a tropical area. Or maybe the flood they escaped and passed down orally was when the sea rose as the ice age ended.

Herodotous writes that “The form of the serpent is like that of the water-snake; but he has wings without feathers, and as like as possible to the wings of a bat.”.

If you google snakes spitting venom, found: “Spitting cobras protect themselves by shooting jets of venom into the eyes of their attackers. A new study suggests that over the course of several million years, all three groups of spitters independently tailored the chemistry of their toxins in the same way to cause pain to a would-be predator.“

I’m not a dragon or dinosaur “fan” or a young earther geology sceotic btw. I just think if Herodotus says it there is some “grain of” truth.


11 posted on 02/11/2024 9:13:16 PM PST by takebackaustin
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To: Phinneous
While we’re on “what is known about Abraham,” does your church believe he smashed his father’s idols? Or that Nimrod threw him into a fire (which he miraculously survived,) or any of what the Jewish Midrash (commentary) calls the ten trials of Abraham? (Culminating in the binding of Isaac.)

Never even heard of those myths surrounding Abraham. Why would anyone even bother to learn such obscure stuff like that? Why would the church bother to consider it or teach it? What practical use is it to anyone?

Who would even care and why?

12 posted on 02/12/2024 3:42:57 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: delchiante; Roman_War_Criminal

You know, nobody is interested in your weird obsession with calendars.

I honestly don’t know what point you are trying to prove with it because even YOU have to live your life around the current calendar we use to manage in this world.

If you are going to do banking, healthcare, shopping, pay bills, or any of a plethora of everyday life doings, you have to use it. And you are NEVER going to change the whole world to your obsession with something as irrelevant to most people as the calendar they use.

You are not more spiritual, or right, or holier than anyone else because of your touting it. There are far bigger moral issues in this world to address than dates and they are not going to be fixed with changing what you call days or what year it is.

And since neither God nor Jesus made an issue of it, I doubt it’s going to earn us more favor with God if we use the one YOU think we should instead of a different one. Because the long and short of it is, you can’t prove that He approves of YOUR version of it either.


13 posted on 02/12/2024 3:52:22 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: takebackaustin
We mock ancient sources at some risk.

The ancients are usually mocked, ridiculed, or looked down on as intellectually inferior and uncouth by today's self-appointed elitists, but seriously, they did feats of engineering we can only marvel at. The Romans made a form of concrete we can't yet figure out how to replicate. They built structures where we don't understand how they got the materials to the site much less how they were able to orient them astronomically and build them with such precision.

They laid the groundwork for modern math and astronomy by developing and discovering the concepts used.

IMO it takes far more genius to do THAT than simply build on what others have done before us.

14 posted on 02/12/2024 3:58:34 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom; Roman_War_Criminal

Metmom,
In a forum post about the ‘Chinese’ zodiac and lunar new year, and talk of year of a dragon, you are triggered by a biblical way to tell time that centers around the Creator and His Commemorative work of Creation, Justification/Redemption, Sanctification/Convicting the world of sin, and the future work of Glorification , every day, every month, every year..

A calendar that begins every month about Him,the middle is about Him, the end is about Him.

New Moon Day- About Him
24 work days- About Him
4 Sabbath days- About Him

Christianity may find those numbers in a book that might or might not be of interest to them..

The Chinese won’t.
The Papacy and Pope probably won’t.
Islam won’t
Judaism won’t

Fascinating the work the dragon does to deceive the whole world, especially the world who follows Daniel’s 4th Beast religiously, today and every day, every week,every month.

Time is quite a fascinating topic.
So is the relation it plays to the counterfeiting of reality and religion in the end times..

I don’t expect the world to change.
Especially Pope Christianity..
Enjoy the Pope’s moon day today. It’s the Pope’s 2nd day.

Today is the Creator’s first work day, according to His Creation and calendar.
A day where He said Let there be light.

Times and law changing is a subtle thing.

The Dragon,the Beast and Antichrist are trying to sell me Moon Day February 12.

Babylon accepts that without testing or proving. They buy and sell that as the reality.

I’ve tested and proved things that may seem weird to people of faith.
No sale.. I’ve chosen gold,refined by fire.

You certainly can wake up to a reality that is Dragon, Beast and Antichrist peddled..

Very comfortable being on the opposite side of the Dragon, Beast, Antichrist Papacy, Antichrist Islam and Antichrist Judaism, and maybe even end times Roman Pope led Christianity..

I don’t share a lot with the world.
Their days, their weeks,their months.

Not even the Pope’s Jesus or the Pope’s gospel.

And maybe that’s the real reason.
A false Jesus and false first importance of the gospel is being peddled by the Dragon,Beast and Antichrist in the end times.

And the scriptures,Creation and the calendar within both, can lead one to the same premise.

The world can’t afford to buy or sell that premise.

For to do so means, the world, it’s Babylonian Religions, the Dragon, Beast and Antichrist, all fall..
Becuse it’s all been inherited lies from the Dragon that deceives the whole world.

Can’t wait

Moon Day February 12 is a reality
It isn’t the Truth

I stopped buying what they were selling.

You can keep on buying it, though..


15 posted on 02/12/2024 7:05:49 AM PST by delchiante
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To: metmom

Thank you for answering. I didn’t think ALL rabbinic teaching would permeate the church (though it surely does in the NT— from the dating of Passover/Easter to the teaching of Hillel the Elder (That which is hateful to you don’t do to others, 1st century BC...))

So the story of smashing the idols is young Abram (pre-AbraHam) in Terah’s literal idol shop, left in charge, smashed all idols but one large one in whose hands he placed a hammer. Terah angrily questioned Abram what happened and he said that the idols fought and the big one smashed them all. To which Terah answered that they are just dump pieces of metal and pottery.... to which Abram quipped, “Why then, do you worship them?”

So it’s a story of Abram’s realization that one G-d created the world and all other forces, such that they are— including the “gifts” aforementioned... are subservient to G-d alone. “G-d of gods” as the Torah says.

The other trials are testing Abram’s faith in his belief...

...leading up to the trial of the binding of Isaac, explicit in Genesis.


16 posted on 02/12/2024 7:50:48 AM PST by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: delchiante
You use ANY opportunity to push your legalistic calendar keeping. Don't throw that back on me.

Colossians 2:16-23 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

Those in Christ are free from the Law.

Those under the Law by choice are condemning themselves. Read Galatians 2 & 3 for an understanding of that.

17 posted on 02/12/2024 9:22:44 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

while no one can know for certain, it’d be easy to understand how fossils of some dinosaurs would be construed as ‘dragons’


18 posted on 02/12/2024 9:48:00 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: metmom

What I’m throwing back at the Dragon, The Beast and Antichrist is their false version of Jesus, the gospel, and the Kingdom to Come with His Truth.

The Truth does indeed set one free.

Some aren’t expecting to be around when The Dragon,Beast and Antichrist get to work..

They work today.
And everyday..
Tomorrow too..

And they have a Lamblike Beastly look to it.

The scriptures predict that.

Not really judging you Metmom.
Just noting that Satan has his own version of Truth that Paul and the first disciples didn’t follow.

All those days Israel were taught are the shadow.
They point to Him.
It’s nice to know when they happen because major events happened on those appointments and how these days are ignored,followed,missed, by Abrahamic religions, is a clue to Satan’s deceit in the world, especially religion.

It’s also nice to know why Satan has hidden and counterfeit His Appointments after about 2,000 demon possesed swine years.

The entire world is deceived.
That may feel like an attack.
That really is just an observation.

One you don’t have to buy.

The world has every right to ignore every appointment He taught Israel. The world has every right to counterfeit His Appointments with their own..

The world should know that all of that ends at some point when His Kingdom Comes, though.

And it may not be Islam,Judaism or Christianity that wins when His Kingdom comes.

He wins.
Satan loses
The Beasts lose
The Antichrists lose

I pray for His Kingdom to come..

I kind of know one way the world will change when it does.

Tiw won’t get a day anymore
Wooden won’t get a day anymore
Thor won’t get a day anymore
Goddess Frigg won’t get a day anymore
Saturn won’t get a day anymore
The Sun won’t get a day anymore

The world will follow the Dragon’s patterns until His Kingdom Comes.

They’ll believe in The Dragon’s December 25, January 1, February 2 until His Kingdom Comes
They’ll believe in the Dragon’s False goddess Frigg Day,Saturday, Sunday until His Kingdom comes

The book of Revelation predicts great deceit.

You and I can disagree that it isn’t,or is going on today..

Another Jesus and another gospel than Paul and the first disciples is either an important part of that deceit or it isn’t.

I’m convinced it is.
Because of the testing and proving of all things.

Sorry if that feels like legalism to you.
It is the opposite of legalism to me.
It’s true freedom in Him.
Knowing the Truth and setting one free from the Dragon and his lies and falsehoods and deceit that The Dragon peddles daily.
Peddled in the world, peddled in religion.

Do as you wish on His New Moon Days, His Sabbath’s, His Feasts.
They are all about Him.
They aren’t going away in the Kingdom to Come.
On the contrary,the bible and the prophets predict they will be observed in the Kingdom to Come.

I look forward to that Kingdom to Come.
I also feel beyond blessed to understand what they mean to the Word Made Flesh in His plan.

Something that can’t fully be taught in Judaism and Christianity today because it would mean the fall of each of their doctrines..

Quite a time to be alive.
To see deceit in real time.
From Babylon.
While living within it.

His Day is Coming and it’ll mean the end of Satan’s deceit for 1,000 years.

I’m being told from bible scholars that deceit will come with the Church’s removal.

An inconvenient truth that comes out of testing and proving all things is the Church being here enables the deceit..

Amazing Grace indeed!


19 posted on 02/12/2024 1:13:16 PM PST by delchiante
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20 posted on 02/25/2024 8:22:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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