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In ambulance, survivors of S.F. tiger attack made pact of silence
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | January 5, 2008 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 01/05/2008 4:26:41 AM PST by repinwi

Soon after their 17-year-old friend was mauled to death by a tiger at the San Francisco Zoo, the two brothers who survived the attack made a quick pact not to cooperate with the police as they rode in an ambulance to the hospital, sources told The Chronicle.

"Don't tell them what we did," paramedics heard 23-year-old Kulbir Dhaliwal tell his brother, Paul, 19.

Sources also say that the younger brother was intoxicated at the time of the incident, having used marijuana and consumed enough liquor to have a blood-alcohol level above the .08 limit for adult drivers. The older brother also had been drinking and using marijuana around the time a 350-pound Siberian tiger escaped and killed Carlos Sousa Jr., the sources said.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: idiots; sanfrancisco; slingshot; tiger; zoo
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To: Senator Goldwater
"They souhgt help at the Reptile House, where they were found Mark Garegos."

The best answer yet! LOL

81 posted on 01/05/2008 7:24:07 AM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: Caramelgal
No, just a writer of federal regulations ~ but to do that job well you have to think of what the ambulance chasers are going to do with your words.

I'm thinking if the claims concerning who said what are true, given all the other factoids we know about, you don't want to end up in an ambulance ride in San Fran!

82 posted on 01/05/2008 7:24:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: doosee
Time to put some waterboarding to good use on the two brothers. Then we would see how long the “pact” survived.

Ummmmmm. I understand your feelings here, but did you really think that through before you hit post?

83 posted on 01/05/2008 7:24:34 AM PST by null and void (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. - M203M4)
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To: repinwi
I seem to recall the taunting via the internet of a young girl who committed suicide. Not many here on FR cared one iota for punishing the woman taunter for her actions. But involve some kids with a tiger and all there is is screams for justice. (shaking head in confusion)

I have no respect for any paramedics talking to the press....it IS unprofessional.

84 posted on 01/05/2008 7:25:14 AM PST by tioga (Another freezing day.)
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To: nicmarlo
Your fascination with me is flattering. I stand corrected, the tiger was able to reach through the bars and grab hold of the zoo keeper. Now you can move on to other misconceptions which are being posted. Good job soldier.
85 posted on 01/05/2008 7:26:39 AM PST by repinwi
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To: muawiyah

“Unless there’s a “source” who is willing to sign a deposition then there’s no “source”.”

you’re right.
My first thought when I read the headline was that those brothers would not have been placed in the same ambulance anyway.

I know of a situation where a family member was told by an ems worker their relative had been decapitated in an auto accident. The ems guy “knew” this was true, because he was “there.”

The relative actually had only suffered a broken wrist and injured her knee.


86 posted on 01/05/2008 7:26:40 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: srmorton

No, it’s NOT tragic a young man was killed.

It was Evolution in Action: the twit was obviously too stupid to be allowed to breed, and his actions, along with those of his friends, allowed nature to remove him from the gene pool

(evil grin)


87 posted on 01/05/2008 7:27:20 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: null and void

We need to waterboard the Zoo’s top officers ~ what did they know and when did they know it. I rally don’t want to waste a lot of time on these characters who had wild animal enclosures that were under the control of the animals!


88 posted on 01/05/2008 7:28:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Of course I wasn't seriously suggesting killing these two idiots, but honestly what can one possibly offer society when he/she thinks it is a good idea to take on a 500 pound killing machine?

Bomb disposal?

89 posted on 01/05/2008 7:29:00 AM PST by null and void (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. - M203M4)
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To: MissEdie

Or, at the VERY least, introduced to an “alternative lifestyle” by Bubba the Axe Murderer while in the Pen. . . .


90 posted on 01/05/2008 7:29:21 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: DogandPonyShow

“If someone jumps into the pit with the tiger then I would say the zoo would not be liable.”

But...there was a shoeprint on top of the fence.

I am picturing a surly kid sitting on the fence with his slingshot trying to get a rise out of the tiger.

Boy - did he ever!


91 posted on 01/05/2008 7:29:36 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: repinwi

You flatter yourself.

I have utter contempt for people who make false claims and insist, without any credible documentation, that they’re making true statements.

Indeed, I am a soldier for truth, and I already know I do that job quite well.


92 posted on 01/05/2008 7:29:50 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: srmorton
I am not what you would really call an animal rights activist who values animals more than people (although my husband is always accusing me of being one just because I love my cats)

I would say your husband is a smart man, the animal rights activist have there own little email alert system so they can pile on in their hate filled attacks like this.

It should be noted that every unnamed source to-date about this case has proved to be wrong.

93 posted on 01/05/2008 7:29:52 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

The kid who went back to help that one punk....and died...was Latino. I don’t believe either of the other two....are Latino, although I may be wrong.


94 posted on 01/05/2008 7:33:12 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: tioga

” Not many here on FR cared one iota for punishing the woman taunter for her actions. But involve some kids with a tiger and all there is is screams for justice. (shaking head in confusion)”

EXCELLENT POINT!!


95 posted on 01/05/2008 7:33:33 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: DogandPonyShow

“I don’t care if they replaced all of the tigers blood with pure adrenaline. It should not have been able to escape it’s confines under ANY circumstances.”

You act as if the physical limits of a tigers prowess were (are) absolutely known factors. You seem to have forgotten that when this story broke none of the experts who were touting the higest standards in use at other zoos claimed, implicitly or explicitly, to KNOW what a tiger could actually do, only what they HAD done. For 67 years this zoo contained the tigers. Those 67 years count for something. What these stupid punks may have been doing when the tiger escaped counts for something. We don’t live in a vacuume and absolutes are generally no argument and BS besides.


96 posted on 01/05/2008 7:34:04 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: nicmarlo
The tiger apparently reached its paws through steel bars and grabbed the trainer's arms while she was answering questions from the public after the 2 p.m. feeding.

Translation:

The trainer was inattentive and standing too close to the cage after the 2 p.m. feeding.

Once the cats have been fed, any trainer doing the feeding is supposed to put sufficient distance betweem himself and the cage bars so that the animal can't reach him.

97 posted on 01/05/2008 7:41:30 AM PST by Bob
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To: muawiyah
They don’t have the phone number. It’s on their cellphones. The cops have their cellphones.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they took cell phone pictures of themselves tormenting the tiger?

98 posted on 01/05/2008 7:41:44 AM PST by null and void (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. - M203M4)
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To: Bob
"Once the cats have been fed, any trainer doing the feeding is supposed to put sufficient distance between himself and the cage bars so that the animal can't reach him."

EXACTLY! And maybe that's why a medical claim filed against the city by the keeper was denied. Don't know.

99 posted on 01/05/2008 7:49:34 AM PST by repinwi
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To: null and void
Or, maybe took some pictures of the tiger chowing down on the dead fellow ~ anything is possible.

At the same time the cops really do need to come up with some reason for why they need the cellphones.

100 posted on 01/05/2008 7:49:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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