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What breed of puppies are these?
March 20, 2008

Posted on 03/20/2008 10:33:13 AM PDT by processing please hold

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To: LucyJo
Sorry I've taken so long to respond. I have been working with the girls all day long and just wrapped it up.

Grace wants to please me and Lilly wants me to please her. I can see we're gonna have an alpha female problem. lolol They are a stubborn and hardheaded breed. My first full day and it was fantastic.

341 posted on 03/21/2008 6:19:59 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The night was great. The multiple piles waiting for me in the morning were something else. I’ve been taking them outside every thirty minutes to relieve themselves. I’d say we made great process in that area. Still needs working on but I’ll housebreak them.


342 posted on 03/21/2008 6:23:50 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: processing please hold
You'll get it done. I'm happy for all of you.

Every evening toward dusk, Darren, our rescue border collie/mix goes out on our deck and waits for the deer to come into our yard. Sometimes they cooperate and sometimes they don't but he doesn't give up. He's out there every night. Our dogs have the doggie door in our bedroom door so they can come and go as they want.

343 posted on 03/21/2008 6:31:21 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Titan Magroyne
If you make them work for a treat - as in “sit” for it first - they’ll be more prompt at carrying out your commands.

That's how I've been doing it today. Grace will sit on command, stay, if I stand next to her and won't move until I command 'come' and start walking. She is so eager to please.

Lilly, oh Lilly! Stubborn, headstrong and wants to be alpha female to me. Ain't gonna happen. She keeps trying to walk me instead of the other way around. I'm establishing my dominance over her and she isn't liking it one iota.

I would like for Grace to be the alpha female between them. I'll give it a few more days to see who comes out on top between them.

I'm a good tired. :)

344 posted on 03/21/2008 6:33:52 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Condor51
Our 10 month old (yesterday) Labrador Retriever (Yellow Lab) 'Puppy' weighs 65# (at least and is all muscle) and is approx 5' long when she stretches out. And standing on her hind legs she can reach anything that's 1/2 way on our 36" high kitchen counter.

And still growing...goodness.

I've been looking at pictures of full grown GP's. They will be huge. I'm glad they're both females, they won't be as large or heavy as males.

345 posted on 03/21/2008 6:38:55 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Condor51

Labs are beautiful dogs. Ours are Great Pyrenees.


346 posted on 03/21/2008 6:41:09 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: SE Mom

Thank you. You’re right, they are FReeper dogs.


347 posted on 03/21/2008 6:42:22 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I'm glad to hear that they had been well cared for. You said that one of the children in the house had some disabilities. I think these dogs will be great with her -- very protective. They'll think of her as their lamb.

You're right. I don't know if they have a sixth sense or something but they will lay down by her feet and stay. If she starts to get up they move away from her very quickly.

She can lead Grace on the leash but I won't let her near Lilly on one. Lilly wants to pull you and that's something my little girl can't handle, she doesn't have the stability for that.

Thank you so much. It's been a very tiring day and I smell like a dog. lololol

348 posted on 03/21/2008 6:47:59 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: processing please hold
Grace wants to please me and Lilly wants me to please her.

LOL.

Getting to know their little personalities (doggienalities? lol.)...I'd say they are appropriately named.

Sounds like you're going to be busy for a while...tiring, but worth it. I'm imagining puppy smiles. Ha.

349 posted on 03/21/2008 6:54:31 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Thank you. Our home has been missing having dogs in it. It feels right to have them with us.

I'm fixin to take the girls out one last time before turning in.

It's not even nine o'clock yet and I'm ready for a shower(*holds nose* phew) and bed.

Our dogs have the doggie door in our bedroom door so they can come and go as they want.

Hubby was telling me that Lowes has a doggy door that has a repellent on the outside of it that is supposed to keep critters from coming inside your house. I don't know if I want to try that. Somehow that doesn't sound feasible in the long term of it. Seems like the repellent would eventually wear off.

350 posted on 03/21/2008 6:57:25 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

God bless you for that post. It’s so true. God works in mysterious ways.


351 posted on 03/21/2008 7:08:00 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: processing please hold
I know there are doggie doors that are activated by the dogs' collars. I certainly like the convenience of the doggie door as they can go in and out as they want. I thought perhaps it would leak cold air this winter but it wasn't bad at all. It's the kind installed in a sliding glass patio door and it's great. When we want all we hae to do is remove it. There's no hole.

Did you see my post about the Roomba Dirt Dog? I got really discouraged about all the dog hair until I got Mildred (we named ours Mildred). I keep her battery charged and she goes around gobbling up dog hair. I wouldn't be without it.

352 posted on 03/21/2008 7:08:03 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I would love to have a doggie door. By the time the girls are full grown, do they make doggie doors that big?

Roomba Dirt Dog?

I saw it, I thought you were kidding. No, I've never heard of it. Is it good for pet hair?

353 posted on 03/21/2008 7:11:58 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: processing please hold

Check with a pet supplies specialty dealer like Doctors Foster & Smith. There are pet doors that only allow opening from the outside with a signal from a transponder on the dog’s collar.

Dunno if those come big enough for your big girls’s adult sizes, though.

If Lilly continues to take you for a walk instead of the other way around, a prong or choke collar may do the trick.

I don’t suppose you’ve considered crates to help with housebreaking?

Sounds like your first full day with them was a fun one, if a lot of work. :o) Sleepy tight!


354 posted on 03/21/2008 7:15:06 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: Titan Magroyne
choke collar may do the trick.

I just told hubby tonight I was going to try a choke chain on her. Is there a difference between a choke chain and choke collar?

I don’t suppose you’ve considered crates to help with housebreaking?

I just found out about crating today. I might go that route.

Sounds like your first full day with them was a fun one, if a lot of work. :o) Sleepy tight!

It was fun and now I really have to take them out for the last time tonight. I stink to high heaven.

Good night. :)

355 posted on 03/21/2008 7:23:39 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: processing please hold
Doggie doors come in all sizes. Our daughter gave us hers as they no longer have a dog but Darren was forced to duck down to get under it and it caused him to limp. It must have hurt his shoulder.

We got a larger door raised higher off the ground and he immediately stopped limping.

The Roomba is GREAT for picking up dog hair. My husband cannot live without a dog and yet the hair was discouraging. The Roomba made all the difference in the world.

I got the Dirt Dog that is really made for garages, etc. Our floors are hardwood and it is doing a fantastic job.

356 posted on 03/21/2008 7:25:56 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: processing please hold
I just found out about crating today. I might go that route.

That was THE best thing we did when we got our puppy. No worries if we leave for a couple of hours that the sofa will be in shreds when we return, etc....

When she sees us get our coats out of the closet (or when I get my purse and keys); she lets herself into the kennel and waits for her treat. She's almost three now; and still sleeps in it at times.

You will need very large kennels, however. A friend of mine has several large dogs; she built a 6x6 kennel in her basement.

357 posted on 03/21/2008 7:40:44 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: processing please hold

Nah, no difference between choke “chain” or “collar.” There also are slip collars/leashes of nylon that work on the same principle but are meant more for quick leashing & control rather than correction of stubborness. Only use such devices on them during training sessions.

My dogs permanently wear martingales, aka “greyhound collars,” now that they are finished growing. (Nylon with a limited choke. Adjusted so the dog can’t pull his head through yet it wouldn’t choke him to death if he hung himself by it. In the absense of tension, you can easily slip the collar over the dog’s head.)

Gotta use caution with those because many that I find now are of thin guage. I got a lesson on how playful dogs and thin nylon collars are a bad combo. The bigger dog got a tooth trapped as it punched through the smaller dog’s collar. As that dog tried to pull away, she was strangling the puppy. It turned into a tumbling tug of war that swapped ends and produced panicked yelps from both before I could find an opening to separate them. No permanent damage, just a lot of fright on the part of all involved.


358 posted on 03/21/2008 10:17:52 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: garandgal

Yep! No problem getting my youngest (3-ish) into the crate. She trots in and turns around to get her treat.

They both cram in there (by their choice and mine) when they’ve been naughty.


359 posted on 03/21/2008 10:26:18 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: processing please hold
I just told hubby tonight I was going to try a choke chain on her. Is there a difference between a choke chain and choke collar?

Get a prong collar. And my dog trainer had us sharpen a couple of the teeth for my Golden who loves to pull. THey are not exactly a choke collar as they are designed somewhat differently. But don't allow them to run around outside unleashed when wearing a choke, or a prong, collar -- it is just for training. Those prongs look evil, but they won't hurt the dogs. They are just a reminder to be used with your commands. One quick jerk reminds the dog to listen.

It would really be a good idea to take a puppy class with a qualified trainer while they are in their rambunctious stage. And purchase their training collars from a good pet store where the owner can help you sort through all of the possibilities.

Another type of collar/leash for a dog that pulls is the "easy leader". It is a nylon affair that goes around the nose, instead of around the neck. It looks a little strange and people will ask if it is a muzzle (it is not.) I've never used one, but people swear by them. All the pressure is on the nose, and the dog quickly learns that it is uncomfortable if he pulls and stops doing it. Their necks and shoulders seem to be able to take a tremendous amount of pressure without bothering them. That is why you will see a dog pull on his collar and choke and cough. It never seems to occur to them to stop pulling. For some reason the easy leader makes them more manageable. And that is also why my dog trainer had us sharpen a couple of prongs. A little prick did wonders to manage a large dog that nearly pulled my arm out of the socket the first week I had him.

Look up Petco on the web and type in Easy Leader, if you do not have a good pet supply near you.

360 posted on 03/22/2008 5:04:37 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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