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se;f ^ | 06-07-08 | em2vn

Posted on 06/07/2008 12:06:05 PM PDT by em2vn

I recently had the need to purchase a new shower head. The local Lowe's only carried ones produced in China. I sucked it up and bought one. It leaked when installed as did the replacement, but I was able to correct the faulty replacement after a bit of work. Today I was at the local Ace Hardware store. That business had shower heads manfactured in America. I purchased one and installed it. It didn't leak. Ace Hardware also had a 3" trimming plane manfactured in the United States. I didn't need it but I bought it along with a tile scoring tool and replacement blade, also make in America. One can feel the better quality of American made products over Chinese junk once you get them in your hand.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: plane; scoring; tools
I spent my youth killing communists. I'll be damned if I'll put money in their hands so they can produce weapons to kill my sons.
1 posted on 06/07/2008 12:06:05 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn

Thanks! BTTT


2 posted on 06/07/2008 12:08:41 PM PDT by landerwy (Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness!)
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To: em2vn
One can feel the better quality of American made products over Chinese junk

At one time true of stuff made in Japan. Now their products are almost entirely of the very highest quality. The same could in the long run be true of China too.

3 posted on 06/07/2008 12:39:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: em2vn

China’s Importing Billions of Dollars of Cheaply Made CRAP.

They are immoral Thieves.

Buy American, even if it costs twice as much.


4 posted on 06/07/2008 12:52:01 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Sherman Logan

The difference is that Japan embraced western ideas, democracy and had a desire to produce the best products in the world.

China is not Japan. Japan didn’t do it to use everything they earned from us, to become stronger and engage us in an ultimate showdown.


5 posted on 06/07/2008 12:53:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Japan didn't do it to use everything they (l)earned from us, to become stronger and engage us in an ultimate showdown.

That's a joke, right?

It's exactly what they did. They just lost the showdown.

We also have no idea whether that is what the Chinese will do. There are certainly Chinese leaders who have such plans, and Chinese xenophobia tends in that direction, but we do not know for sure whether it will happen.

China is a LONG way from being able to fight an offensive war against the US, although not far from being able to give us real problems in a regional war. Without using nukes we could not presently invade and conquer China, not without an effort and casualties the American people would never accept.

6 posted on 06/07/2008 1:00:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: em2vn

I’m with you. Buy American as much as possible.


7 posted on 06/07/2008 1:02:07 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Sherman Logan

I meant AFTER we kicked their ass. They weren’t a democracy until we installed one. We rebuilt their economy. They wanted to learn to make quality goods. They outdid us after awhile in many things. And still do in certain areas.

We haven’t kicked China’s ass yet. The other difference was that when we defeated Japan they weren’t a nuclear power. China is. Japan didn’t own a trillion of our debt. China does. Japan didn’t have a 200 million man army. China does.

There are many differences.


8 posted on 06/07/2008 1:15:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Sherman,

I’m with you. First, most Chinese gave up on Communism long ago. In fact, many of their medium to large businesses have embraced capitalism to a greater degree than American companies like Starbuck’s.

Secondly, whether the forum members here like it or not, 70% of all bathroom fixtures (even those with American names) are made in China. I found that out while visiting the recent NKBA (National Kitchen and Bath Association) show in Chicago. Other industries have a ways to go but the office and luxury condo buildings I saw five years ago were all to modern standards, right down to the CADD drawings and flow charts.

From a quality point of view, the Chinese are making great strides. Their textile industry is going head-to-head with Italian cashmere and some of the results my retail friends saw in Shanghai were quite impressive. I think if you look at Asian countries, like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, you see similar evolution. It all depends on an educated middle-class and the priority of educating the children in those nations.

I think many of the nationalists in China would like to see a resurgence in their military strength as you point out but most Chinese would like the country to follow a more democratic path because they understand that reforms are more likely to proceed under such conditions.


9 posted on 06/07/2008 1:24:28 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Jane’s Defence Weekly states China’s PLA stands at about 4 million. As one who has visited China, their militia is a joke.

In the Eighties, Japan actually did own a lot of US debt as well as US real estate including the iconic Rockefeller Center and Pebble Beach golf course.


10 posted on 06/07/2008 1:28:00 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: 12Gauge687

A lot depends on the quality-control measures imposed by the American company whose name will ultimately be on the product. I recently had to buy a more “play in the bars”-type guitar so as to keep my vintage guitar home and safe. I was surprised at the quality of the Epiphone which was made there. I don’t like having to buy stuff made in China, but not having $1200-1500 to buy a comparable Gibson, there was little choice.


11 posted on 06/07/2008 2:45:25 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Sherman Logan

Only if we allow it to happen.


12 posted on 06/07/2008 2:58:29 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Sherman Logan
It's exactly what they did. They just lost the showdown.

What showdown?

BTW, we gave Japan most of our technology. Like steel mills. They learned from us and built new ones. The corps here let then languish and die.

We are doing the same thing with China. Except in this case we are literally giving them our national secrets.

EXCLUSIVE: China gets U.S. Olympics help (Sending previously restricted equipment)

How long before they turn that against us?

13 posted on 06/07/2008 3:36:15 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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What showdown?

I believe it is commonly known as the Pacific War, a theater of WWII.

14 posted on 06/07/2008 3:47:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan
I believe it is commonly known as the Pacific War, a theater of WWII.

The orginal post was about post WW II. That's what you responded to.

Japan was rebuilt by us and we gave them our technology.

15 posted on 06/07/2008 3:49:22 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: em2vn

bookmark to follow this one..


16 posted on 06/07/2008 10:07:27 PM PDT by tomkat (helping keep American craftsmanship alive)
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