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Hunt creatures that hunt for sport
missoulian ^ | September 20, 2009 | Kathy Verley

Posted on 09/20/2009 7:23:34 AM PDT by george76

I recently received e-mails from friends showing mother cows with their rectums and female organs torn from their bodies by the wolves. These cows were lying down and the blood and raw meat trailed down on their legs. You could tell they were in awful pain. I am sure hundreds of our deer and elk are suffering the same way.

All you wolf lovers should take a good look at these pictures and share them with your families and your children, show them what these savage animals are really all about. Anyone that supports these evil acts are evil themselves. Society would not allow a domestic dog or a human to do these tortuous acts with out punishment. A domestic dog would be shot and a human would be put in jail.

We have lived in the Quartz Flat area since 1970 and always felt safe walking in our woods and enjoying the wildlife. Not any more, after finding deer, elk killed and left to rot and fawns half eaten while still partially in the doe; we cannot enjoy our walks. A person comes home sickened and disgusted. Four mule deer were found up Quartz Creek, all were taken down chewed up and left to die. The wolves did not even eat them, just wasted the meat. Tracks showed two adult wolves and two smaller wolves, I am sure they were teaching the young how to kill for sport. That is what these killing machines are: sport killers.

The state Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks and judges need to get some intestinal fortitude and eliminate these horrible animals. We Montana citizens need to get real vocal about this disgrace.

We have seven wolves just one mile from our house and we have virtually no wildlife left on our flat. The wolves have been here since last winter and have either killed or run off all the game. Our elk herds always calve in this area; if loggers were disturbing the calving season they would be run out of the woods. But the wolves kill and disrupt the calving and nothing is done.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; montana; sss; wildlife; wolf; wolflovers; wolfpacks; wolves
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1 posted on 09/20/2009 7:23:34 AM PDT by george76
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To: jazusamo; girlangler; LucyT; Grammy; proud_yank; GladesGuru; Troublemaker; Myrddin; rellimpank; ...

Letter to the editor


2 posted on 09/20/2009 7:25:54 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

This was clearly predicted by those that truly understand nature, but ignored by those that do not.


3 posted on 09/20/2009 7:31:32 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: george76

Wolves are also outcompeting bears for food.

In July, outside Cody, WY, a man was attacked by a Griz sow, with 3 cubs. After the initial blind side attack and a brief retreat, the Griz threatned another attack and the man was able to shoot and kill the sow......it was only 255 pounds! That is about half of the normal weight for a nursing sow (500 lbs.)
It isn’t just the unusal 3rd cub, but a clear lack of food that contributed to her serious underweight condition.


4 posted on 09/20/2009 7:36:56 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: george76

My advice to the writer: Shoot, shovel and shutup.


5 posted on 09/20/2009 7:38:46 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: george76

Same with foxes. They will eat half a lamb as it is being born and tear at the laboring ewe, but if English people try to hunt them in order to defend their flocks, they are considered cruel to animals.


6 posted on 09/20/2009 7:38:46 AM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: G Larry

Wildlife managers say a grizzly bear killed 13 sheep last month on a grazing allotment in Caribou-Targhee National Forest.

Mark Bruscino, bear management program supervisor for the Wyoming Game and Fish Department, said the bear killed eight ewes and five lambs Aug. 15. Bruscino estimates grizzlies have killed 35 cattle and 45 sheep statewide so far this year.


7 posted on 09/20/2009 7:39:32 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I’d forward that email, if anyone has it.

They tried to re-introduce the red wolf back into the Smokies several years back. The ever so wise fish and wildlife folks denigrated those who complained and said they would go after the cows in Cades Cove.

Sure ‘nuff, the wolves went for the cows. Fortunately, the population of wolves did not take.

These creatures were killed out for a reason: they are not warm cuddly nature pets. They are killers and do not belong around people.


8 posted on 09/20/2009 7:41:34 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: Adder

http://www.missoulian.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_46fe431e-a48e-11de-954f-001cc4c002e0.html


9 posted on 09/20/2009 7:43:57 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; AuntB; Jeff Head; SierraWasp; Libertina; amom; xcamel; GladesGuru; AAABEST; E.G.C.; ...
I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times. Enviro-whacko's don't care about the environment (or anything else for that matter), they only care about control. They are too stupid to listen to intelligent thought and consideration of reality, it's all about how they feel. Maybe when the truth jumps up and bites them in the face as to how ignorant, and stupid, the school of thought they subscribe to is, they'll begin to have their first awakening.


Ping to the warrior friends who are all sick of enviro-whacko's....isn't that most of FR?
10 posted on 09/20/2009 7:44:03 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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To: G Larry

Wouldn’t you expect a malnourished sow to lose her cubs rather than giving birth to them?


11 posted on 09/20/2009 7:45:29 AM PDT by Styria
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To: george76
Anyone that supports these evil acts are evil themselves. Society would not allow a domestic dog or a human to do these tortuous acts with out punishment. A domestic dog would be shot and a human would be put in jail.

I agree with removing the wolves, but I find this getting all upset because how one animal is killed by another in nature engaging in childish sentimentality. It is a practical matter that wolf populations are a bad idea in cattle and horse country, but it does not follow that this is because these wolves are somehow morally culpable in a human sense. Allowing the wolves to remain is bad because they cause wanton damage to our chattel, not because they are morally culpable.

A large fraction of the British population have been completely overtaken by this senseless sentimentality, and we should take heed and not allow it to happen here also.

To use Tennyson's immortal phrase, "Nature, red in tooth and claw" is a statement of fact. Predators engage in "beastly" behavior because they are, after all, beasts.

12 posted on 09/20/2009 7:46:22 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: george76

Pretty clear the wolves are getting to the elk, leaving little else for the Griz.


13 posted on 09/20/2009 7:49:04 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: george76

We lost 15 goats to coyotes just this year. In our mountains, the coyote population seems to have exploded lately.


14 posted on 09/20/2009 7:49:20 AM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: Styria

Which would lead me to conclude the malnourishment occurred AFTER giving birth.


15 posted on 09/20/2009 7:51:07 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: Issaquahking

BTTT It sure is. Thanks for the ping.


16 posted on 09/20/2009 7:51:18 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: george76

While most state wildlife “manager” in the areas that have big predator populations (cougars and wolves) won’t admit to it, I had a biologist in Oregon quite a few years ago tell me that you could put a transparency of a cat population over a map of mule deer populations and the thing looked like a photographic negative with minimal mule deer where the cats were and heavy populations where they weren’t.


17 posted on 09/20/2009 7:56:39 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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Stupid person can’t see the forest for the trees.

It’s called NATURE!


18 posted on 09/20/2009 7:58:53 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: snowsislander
I agree with removing the wolves, but I find this getting all upset because how one animal is killed by another in nature engaging in childish sentimentality. It is a practical matter that wolf populations are a bad idea in cattle and horse country, but it does not follow that this is because these wolves are somehow morally culpable in a human sense. Allowing the wolves to remain is bad because they cause wanton damage to our chattel, not because they are morally culpable.



I agree completely. Well said.
19 posted on 09/20/2009 8:16:53 AM PDT by Since 2009-07-21
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To: george76

A woman walking outdoors with her children and dog should consider buying a Saiga 12 equipped with a 12 round magazine of buckshot, a Remington 1100 with a ten shot magazine extension, or a light rifle like an AK-47, Mini-14 or Mini-30, AR-15, etc..

Take no chances of being part of a wolf pack killing frenzy. Hopefully, we will not have to one day listen to some ‘cute, commie, GamePerson’ as she weeps crocodile tears while regretfully describing how the wolf pack killed a mother, all her children AND their pet dog.

Take no chances if the wolves move within 50 yards.

Having watched a large bodied predator attack from only 35 feet, trust me when I say that wild predators ARE a risk to humans.

Keeping attacking predators at a distance usually means gunpowder.

Remember, “When gunpowder speaks, beasts obey.”


20 posted on 09/20/2009 8:18:08 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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