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Climate debate: opinion vs evidence ( Reason Free Zone? so says Joanne of JoNova )
abc.net.au ^ | 11 March 2010 | Stephan Lewandowsky

Posted on 03/25/2010 1:18:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

What exactly is "balance"? Our society rightly strives for balance, and many issues are deservedly considered by presenting a balanced set of opinions.

There are however clear cases in which the only balance that matters is the balance of evidence rather than of opinion: Serial killer Ivan Milat's protestations of innocence should not — and did not — balance the evidence arrayed against him. The desire to cure AIDS with garlic and beetroot does not balance the medical consensus that the disease is caused by HIV and can only be beaten by retroviral drugs. And the current wave of sensationalism and distortion cannot balance the scientific consensus that climate change is real and is caused by human emissions.

The current descent of the climate debate into a cauldron of misrepresentations that are at odds with scientific reality must therefore be of concern.

It must be of concern that climate scientists can be publicly accused of having vested financial interests in their research, when in fact Australian research grants cannot be used to top up a researcher's salary.

It must be of concern when segments of the national media frequently distort and misrepresent scientific articles and scientists' statements in complete departure from accepted standards of journalistic honesty and decency.

It must be of concern when segments of the media echo the meme that "global warming stopped in 1998" when in fact all years since 2000 — that is 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 — are among the 10 hottest years ever recorded since 1880. The probability of this happening by chance is small.

It must be of concern that the current Leader of the Opposition has publicly dismissed climate science ....

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: amazongate; carbontrade; climatechange; climatechangedata; climategate; czechgate; glaciergate; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; ipcc; pachauri; pachaurigate; scandinaviagate
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1 posted on 03/25/2010 1:18:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
Now from JoNova:

Picasso Brain Syndrome

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Stefan Lewandowsky’s ABC article on climate change is headlined “Opinion Versus Evidence”. Then with dead-pan delivery, he lists the “evidence”, but it’s all…opinions.

The question of delusion is looming. I mean really, is this a cry for help? There are not many laws of reason that Stefan leaves unbroken. He appeals to authority, attacks the “man”, and talks about everything bar the evidence on climate change.  Is he serious? “Trust me”, he says, the world is warming because AIDS is real, mass-murderer Ivan Milat was guilty, Lord Monckton is only a non-voting member of the House of Lords, a few skeptics are burko, 97% of paid climate scientists agree that we ought to be worried and keep paying them,  someone has discussed the actual money that climate scientists earn (How could they!), and to top it off, the IPCC report is 3,000 pages long !

Not to mention that Google Scholar (“I’m so technical”) finds lots of hits (thanks to Vice President Al Gore, who arranged for the US Government to pay billions of dollars to his favorite researchers, and who also is on the Google advisory team), plus the world has got warmer in the last 150 years. So carbon must have done it, eh?

Shock me. This is science by smear, confusion, obtuse topic, and irrelevant points. Not that we haven’t seen it all before, but it’s coming from a professor. He’s really going a long long way out on a limb with baseless, unsubstantiated bluster, and lighting up in a neon sign that says: “Reason-Free Zone”.

Apparently, all the skeptics’ arguments have been falsified multiple times:

“Instead, the very fact that many of the roughly 100 falsified “sceptic” talking points are continually reiterated in public draws a clear dividing line between healthy scepticism and arrogant denialism”.

Lewandowsky lists exactly no specific examples (Who needs examples when you just know?). Oh, but he must be right, because an editor at what was once a notable journal has been channelling the giant Rotarex in the sky, and has “seen” the true label on the foreheads of the critics, and they are not people:

The world’s pre-eminent scientific journal, Nature, therefore refers to those who cling to long-debunked pseudo-scientific conspiracy theories while dismissing the findings of thousands of peer-reviewed studies by their true label — denialists.

The Picasso Brain Syndrome is when a cortex has all the semblance of “normal” in that especially-Picasso style:  two eyes, two ears, four higher degrees, and no continuity. Massive one-sided funding has created an entirely predictable consensus, and it’s creating a mental implosion in some cerebellums: People are simply unable to cope with following the evidence against the opinion. Some people are born to follow authority. It’s a shame when this happens to professors.

Make no mistake, Lewandowsky thinks he’s writing science, and he thinks he knows what evidence is: It’s headlined. So what is the evidence to convince the 40% of the nation’s unconvinced souls? It’s not thermometers, ocean sediments, ice cores, boreholes, or even crop migration of bananas. It’s a pile of brains (or rather emissions from those brains).

Stefan Lewandowsky thinks that opinion IS evidence. We want to know if the climate is going to warm due to anthropogenic emission of a trace gas. Lewandowsky thinks that if he piles up enough brain-discharges in one spot, this tells us something about the climate. His graphs, if he had any, would record a rise in brains aligned with the hypothesis of man-made global warming.

But, those graphs would be eerily reminiscent of all the other times similar graphs appeared. Not so long ago, many rich, smart people thought DOW 14,000 was an accurate portrayal of reality.

He’s not just going down in flames, but he’s advertised; invited a crowd. The tenets of science are being publicly carbonised (pardon the pun) in supposedly professorial “informed” writing that embarrasses both our taxpayer-funded mass media and our taxpayer-funded universities. This is my former faculty of science. I cringe. The whole crowd winces. The taxi drivers are laughing. Then they realize they pay for this man, this on-line “forum”, and they cry like the rest of us. Blind children in Eritrea could have been cured….

Lewandowsky almost discusses some evidence in one paragraph, but gets confused.

2 posted on 03/25/2010 1:21:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Beowulf; Tunehead54; Clive; Fractal Trader; tubebender; marvlus; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 03/25/2010 1:26:17 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It must be of concern that climate scientists can be publicly accused of having vested financial interests in their research, when in fact Australian research grants cannot be used to top up a researcher's salary.

Oh? I suppose that means that Aussie researchers don't go after grant money then? What a system! =]

4 posted on 03/25/2010 1:28:26 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"It must be of concern when segments of the media echo the meme that "global warming stopped in 1998" when in fact all years since 2000 — that is 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 — are among the 10 hottest years ever recorded since 1880. The probability of this happening by chance is small.

Global Temperature" is a mad-up concept. All we have are averages of all our different thermometers. From 1989 to 1992, the Soviet Union rapidly collapsed and the disappeared. Thousands of Russian measuring stations closed, many of them in cold regions, as did many around the world.
5 posted on 03/25/2010 1:29:37 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; steelyourfaith; NormsRevenge; onyx; BOBTHENAILER; ...

fyi


6 posted on 03/25/2010 1:36:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first century’s developed world went into a historical panic over a globally averaged temperature increase of a few tenths a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a roll-back of the industrial age.”-—Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, MIT


7 posted on 03/25/2010 1:46:04 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Thanks for adding that quote from Prof. Lindzen...one of the good guys...

Somewhere on one of the threads I posted some links to his series of Youtube comments on how all of the AGW was pure propaganda.

He whispers in Sen Inhofe's ear a lot I think!

8 posted on 03/25/2010 1:50:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Consensus = (1) Self-censorship of deviations from the apparent group consensus, reflecting each member’s inclination to minimize to himself the importance of his doubts and counterarguments. (2) A shared illusion of unanimity concerning judgments conforming to the majority view (partly resulting from self-censorship of deviations, augmented by the false assumption that silence means consent). (3) Direct pressure on any member who expresses strong arguments against any of the group’s stereotypes, illusions, or commitments, making clear that this type of dissent is contrary to what is expected of all loyal members. (4) The emergence of self-appointed mindguards—members who protect the group from adverse information that might shatter their shared complacency about the effectiveness and morality of their decisions.


9 posted on 03/25/2010 1:59:44 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/25/ice-station-ztupid/#more-17722


10 posted on 03/25/2010 2:18:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Thanks for the fun read....as far as I got...will work on some more tonight.

I am out of here for awhile.

11 posted on 03/25/2010 2:44:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Thanks.


12 posted on 03/25/2010 2:45:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest


13 posted on 03/25/2010 3:16:15 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Of course it is an ABC editorial. What would one expect. Lot of brain disorder folks in such news groups.


14 posted on 03/25/2010 4:58:13 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle

This is from Australia,...and Stephan Lewandowsky is a Winthrop Professor and an Australian Professorial Fellow at the University of Western Australia.


15 posted on 03/25/2010 5:36:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: neverdem; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge; Brad's Gramma; doug from upland; RonDog; A CA Guy; ...
Hey,...Big News out here,...We heard from Al Gore,...via satellite .

The LA Mayor introduced him as the nobel (small n ) recipient ., and Al Gore after much practicing...still mangled the Mayor's last name...

But said Green Jobs are the way to go...to pay for them the Mayor wants to raise electric rates for DWP by 30%.

But the Council didn't seem to agree....

Watch for the News Story which will be rolling out this afternoon.

Arnold may have been there too...

Heard all of this while out and about on the infamous KFI John and Ken show.!

They were going berserk...

16 posted on 03/25/2010 5:44:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...
It must be of concern that the current Leader of the Opposition has publicly dismissed climate science
No, it must be of concern when someone uses a phrase like "climate science" to refer to the global warming demagoguery. Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach.
17 posted on 03/25/2010 6:19:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
Hey,...stuff is hitting out here...story is developing...posted this...AL Gore made a cameo appearance via the Satellite.:

CA:Los Angeles City Council Opts for Control Over DWP’s Rate Hike

18 posted on 03/25/2010 6:24:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"This is from Australia,...and Stephan Lewandowsky is a Winthrop Professor and an Australian Professorial Fellow at the University of Western Australia."
The poor bastard actually believes all the surface station fudged data from GISS and elsewhere, along with the false pretenses CO2 can somehow is the key trigger in falsely assumed blackbody radiation emissions. He is brain dead.
19 posted on 03/25/2010 8:14:55 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"They were going berserk..."
Damn Ernie. You are starting to sound like me. heheh. On the serious side. Perhaps some element of reality may start to encroach on minds that till now seem to be void.
20 posted on 03/25/2010 8:19:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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