Posted on 05/05/2011 5:42:54 AM PDT by Liberty1970
Ny Teknik recently participated in two new tests of the Italian ‘energy catalyzer’, providing more accurate measurements to reduce possible error sources. Ny Teknik tested the energy catalyzer
The new tests with the energy catalyzer, which seems to generate heat by an unknown nuclear reaction, took place in Bologna on 19 and 28 April, 2011.
As in previous tests the objective was to measure the net energy that the device generates as accurately as possible.
(Excerpt) Read more at nyteknik.se ...
We also controlled all other equipment and checked that there were no hidden connections from the floor or walls.
To safely exclude the transfer of external wireless energy, we measured electromagnetic fields from 5 Hz to 3 GHz. No increase could be noted except for a slight increase at the power-grid frequency of 50 Hz, close to the electrical resistor positioned around the reactor.
This addresses concerns I and others on FR have had about ways this could be a scam. Now I have to assume Ny Technik is in on the scam if it was one. As the hypothesis that this is a fraud becomes more untenable, the unthinkable becomes more likely: The E-Cat is for real. Wow. Wow....
Here is a link to a listing of articles on this subject, for those new to it:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/RossiECatPortal.shtml
This device, if it pans out, destroys the Middle East as a meaningful part of the world.
who is John Galt
May we hope that this is not Piltdown physics. Furthermore, MIT, Stanford, Texas A&M, one of the half dozen gummit labs, WTF are you in the analysis of this Hoax/OMGitisreal thing.
Right now I’m calling it a “perpetual motion Machine” until some independent test are done. Right now, it looks as if the testing is being done by the Nacirema Tribe’s shaman.
Caddis the Elder
This article is heartening for those of who would like to see the strangle hold that OPEC / UN has on the world come to an end.
However, as we end up saying at the end of every thread about the ECAT. When they build the 1MW plant in Greece and it works, then we know it’s for real. Until then it’s all just conjecture.
How appropriate that these tests are taking place in Bologna (that's Baloney to you folks in Rio Linda).
BTW, in your ping list, "papabear" is a user created in 2000 with no posts. I'm PapaBear3625.
While I have increasing hope that this is not a scam, I would prefer it if Rossi allowed the researchers to bring the device to an independent location to test it, and have the test occur over a longer period of time.
Interesting...
I’m not a pessimist, your references are interesting, I hope it is not a hoax.
I hope I am pleasantly surprised.
I endured physics, many courses in fact. This seems to skip over several things in thermo(expletive delete). If it sounds too good to be true, etc.
Hey maybe the Higgs boson thing will pan out, meaning to me, evidence that some structure from before the creation (big bang) exists in the here and now. Almighty God and all that.
The future of manufacturing with one of the cold fusion generators would allow many so-called sci-fi production methods to come to development in months.
Almost free energy however, seems to violate thermo.
The other thing, how could such an invention be corrupted by the evil ones lurking among us?
Caddis
Yeah, sorry... I couldn't remember the # that went with the name. I'll try to keep it in mind. :-)
Thanks for the post and links.
IIUC, it requires an energy input and results in an increased energy output. Perpetual motion would have to be self-sustaining, wouldn't it?
One pound of nickel produces all that power?
Where does physics change to mathematics then to philosophy?
Entrophy.
Snow’s laws of thermodynamics
You can’t win.
You can’t break even.
You have to keep playing the game.
Like I said let’s hope this isn’t a piltdown con.
Caddis the elder
Thanks for the ping! Keep me on the list. please.
Naturally Rossi is getting criticism for this tech and some of his dealings in the past when he fell afoul of Italian law.
I like his approach here: “The mud doesn’t worry me, we will start the delivery of our plants this year and the market will be the sole judge.”
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=488#comments
When Peter Hagelstein of MIT expressed a desire to test the E-Cat, Rossi responded,
“I thank anyway Prof. Peter Hagelstein for his attention. If the MIT is interested to our product, they can buy a plant, and make all the validations they want, for themselves, and get from it good heating too, during the hard Bostonian winters ( I lived there for some year, mamma mia, che freddo!)”
Thanks for the ping! Keep me on the list. please.
Naturally Rossi is getting criticism for this tech and some of his dealings in the past when he fell afoul of Italian law.
I like his approach here: “The mud doesn’t worry me, we will start the delivery of our plants this year and the market will be the sole judge.”
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=488#comments
When Peter Hagelstein of MIT expressed a desire to test the E-Cat, Rossi responded,
“I thank anyway Prof. Peter Hagelstein for his attention. If the MIT is interested to our product, they can buy a plant, and make all the validations they want, for themselves, and get from it good heating too, during the hard Bostonian winters ( I lived there for some year, mamma mia, che freddo!)”
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