The fishes and the coral live happily in the CO2 bubble plume

watts up with that? ^ | December 28, 2011 | Anthony Watts

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Guest post by David Archibald

Willis Eschenbach’s post on lab work on coral response to elevated carbon dioxide levels, and The Reef Abides, leads to a large scale, natural experiment in Papua New Guinea. There are several places at the eastern end of that country where carbon dioxide is continuously bubbling up through healthy looking coral reef, with fish swimming around and all that that implies.

Coral Reef at Dobu Island with carbon dioxide bubbling through it (photo: Bob Halstead)

What that implies is that ocean acidification is no threat at all. If the most delicate, fragile, iconic ecosystem of them all can handle flat-out saturation with carbon dioxide, what is there to worry about?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Ocean Acidification ....the new SCARE>>>>

Got to keep that carbon tax revenue coming in...!!!!!

Related thread:

The Ocean Is Not Getting Acidified

[Marine_Uncle]

This crap just gets re-cycled every few years or so. In the mid eighties I got involved in building reef systems. Many hard bound books and other materials where purchased and studied. Same old same old was addressed back then. And I can clearly remember even earlier on, reading news paper articles or hearing on the moron box news forecasts as how some areas of the Pacific for instance where loosing their reef systems due to acidification. It all is bull shit. to the nth degree.

[steelyourfaith]

Thanx for the ping Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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Jason says:

December 28, 2011 at 10:24 am

“Although none of these threats has ever become manifest as a serious impact and all of the millions of dollars in research has never found any effective solution for anything, the charade never seems to lose credibility or support.”

That about sums up the last three decades in climate science.

[sr4402]

Yeah, I had a 55 gallon Coral Reef aquarium in the early 90s. With stony corals you had to have CO2. I experimented with yeast CO2 reactors as the real setup was expensive.

Coral Reefs are major work and very expensive. I had two used Metal Halide street lamps, a used Protein Skimmer and tried to go cheap.

My advice - if you want to go this way is to go for the best and be prepared for a lot of work. Folks will go ahhhh, and ohhhh when they see it, but you will be fighting fireworms and parasites and chemical problems weekly.

Have heard about the new LED lights which are probably worth it. The Metal Halides evaporated the water like crazy and had problems in the summer with temperatures.

Good luck to anyone who tries it.

[VeniVidiVici]

Well I guess they have to destroy the reef and block off that CO2 from escaping so the planet won’t die.

[A'elian' nation]

Thanks for the coral reef aquarium info.

I want one of these JellyAquariums

http://www.jelliquarium.com/

anyone have experience with one of them ?

[SouthTexas]

Didn’t we already do the acid rain thing and it was all a farce?

Did they forget that already?

[Marine_Uncle]

RE: "That about sums up the last three decades in climate science."
That's where where at. Lots of bad and incomplete and or verified science. I have said here a long time ago, if the Semi-conductor industry, just to name one area, had such poor science been utilized, we would still not have a basic bipolar transistor.

[Marine_Uncle]

I went similar route as you took. I did not use the metal halides lamps however. I just stuck to a bunch of florescents available at the time for reef oriented tanks. I had a 55gal as well. I built my own filter systems using the spinning arms, and rolls of filter in large rubber buckets with loosely fitting lids. System got destroyed after maintaining it for about four years. Left the house for a weekend of work with a small computer firm, returned into my drive way wondering why the Colorado river was pouring down my drive way. Toilet went bad just after I left on a Friday... half the house got destroyed by water damage including the reef system on the first floor living room. Lost a few thousand on that deal.
But it was an enjoyable hobby while it lasted.

[TigersEye]

If the sea cucumbers get too acidified we’ll all be in such a pickle! ;^)

[sr4402]

I remember rigging a bottle with purified water, Iodine and something mix. It made the coraline algae go nuts. About that time a Prayer got answered about moving but the aquarium wouldn't make it.

Gave back the setup and corals back to our favorite Hobby shop where they were sold to others. Green Mushrooms by the boat load, hermit crabs and small fishes and rocks that gave all those strange creatures. Yeah, I miss the reef.

Have fresh water now with plants and go to the sea whenever I can. Once it gets into you it never lets go.

SR

[Marine_Uncle]

Yeah. I often think of the many things that grew in the tank. But there is a time and place for all things under HIS Heaven.

[ApplegateRanch]

I have never had an econut be able to explain to me how the ocean can become acidified by carbonic acid, when there is so much calcium carbonate available to react with/neutralize to it to calcium bicarbonate.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Ernest.

Deep-sea creatures at volcanic vent
BBC | December 27, 2011 | Rebecca Morelle
Posted on 12/28/2011 8:21:06 AM PST by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2825893/posts

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Ernest.

Deep-sea creatures at volcanic vent
BBC | December 27, 2011 | Rebecca Morelle
Posted on 12/28/2011 8:21:06 AM PST by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2825893/posts

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[supercat]

According to what I've read, the determining factor for the formation or dissolution of coral reefs is not the concentration of H+ ions relative to OH- ions, but rather the concentration of H+ ions relative to CO3-- ions. Reducing the pH of water will increase the former ratio and would generally increase the latter, but dissolving CO2 in water will increase the former ratio (and reduce pH) while reducing the latter ratio, thus encouraging the formation rather than dissolution of coral reefs.