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Greg Maddux won’t be a unanimous Hall of Famer for an incredibly stupid reason
Sports Illustrated ^ | January 7, 2014 | Cliff Corcoran

Posted on 01/07/2014 12:59:17 PM PST by EveningStar

No player has ever been elected unanimously to the Hall of Fame and four-time Cy Young winner Greg Maddux, the most obvious of the many deserving candidates on this year’s ballot, won’t be the first. We now know that for sure thanks to MLB.com’s commendable tradition of posting its writers’ ballots the day before the results are announced. There are 17 MLB.com writers who have been members of the Baseball Writers Association of America for 10 or more years and thus are eligible to vote for the Hall of Fame. Sixteen of them voted for Maddux. Dodgers beat reporter Ken Gurnick did not.

Why not? Gurnick wrote that he won’t vote for any player who “played during the period of PED use.” Not one. So who was on his ballot? Just Jack Morris.

(Excerpt) Read more at mlb.si.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: baseball; baseballhalloffame; gregmaddux; hof; jackmorris; kengurnick; maddux; mlb
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1 posted on 01/07/2014 12:59:17 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Gurnick wrote that he won’t vote for any player who “played during the period of PED use."

He's an ass. So they're all guilty by association?

Ok, two can play at that game. Gurnick is a sports writer. Sports writers are part of the media. The media is nothing more than a bunch of liberal bedwetting socialists, worthy of nothing but scorn.

There.

2 posted on 01/07/2014 1:01:47 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: EveningStar

It appears that this Gurnick guy won’t be voting ever again.


3 posted on 01/07/2014 1:03:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EveningStar

PEDs destroyed any credibility of baseball stats. Therefore the HOF should have a huge asterisk next to it.

Barry Bonds 70 HRs in a season? You don’t need to look much farther than that to make the point.


4 posted on 01/07/2014 1:04:22 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: EveningStar

OOps I meant to say Mark Maguire 70 HRS


5 posted on 01/07/2014 1:06:23 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Bullish
PEDs destroyed any credibility of baseball stats.

The credibility of baseball stats was destroyed by interleague play before that.
6 posted on 01/07/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Five years, my brain hurts a lot.)
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To: EveningStar
If anything, facing a bunch of 'roided up batters makes Maddux's stats all the more impressive.
7 posted on 01/07/2014 1:08:14 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: Bullish

Fine. That’s Barry Bonds. He doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame.

But there is no evidence, and I have seen no claims by anyone, that Greg Maddux ever used PEDs.


8 posted on 01/07/2014 1:08:48 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Bullish

Okay.

Fine. That’s Mark McGuire. He doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame.

But there is no evidence, and I have seen no claims by anyone, that Greg Maddux ever used PEDs


9 posted on 01/07/2014 1:09:45 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: KarlInOhio

Good point.


10 posted on 01/07/2014 1:10:08 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Bullish

Bonds hit 73 homers in a season. He also holds the career mark for most homers with 762.


11 posted on 01/07/2014 1:10:43 PM PST by nonamer
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To: EveningStar

8 writers didn’t vote for Cal Ripken when he came up (same reason).


12 posted on 01/07/2014 1:10:55 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: KarlInOhio

The guy will never see it this way.


13 posted on 01/07/2014 1:13:52 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: KarlInOhio
If anything, facing a bunch of 'roided up batters makes Maddux's stats all the more impressive.

I am not making any accusation against Maddox, but plenty of pitchers in that era were heavily roided up themselves. Roger Clemens being the Barry Bonds equivalent on the pitching mound.

14 posted on 01/07/2014 1:15:00 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: EveningStar

One look at Maddux’ body and you can tell he never used ‘roids.


15 posted on 01/07/2014 1:16:00 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Bullish

Are you daft? You think Bonds is more legit. McGwire hit 33 HRs in the first half season, way before steroids.


16 posted on 01/07/2014 1:17:01 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: usconservative

...and most of the sports media are also whiny arse liberal socialists...

This idiot voter selected Jack Morris...who also pitched in the Steroid era...


17 posted on 01/07/2014 1:17:36 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: usconservative
Ok, two can play at that game. Gurnick is a sports writer. Sports writers are part of the media. The media is nothing more than a bunch of liberal bedwetting socialists, worthy of nothing but scorn. There.

Your analogy fails because Gurnick really IS a liberal bed wetting socialist.

18 posted on 01/07/2014 1:18:01 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: dead

Doubted Maddux used roids. Maddux was a great change up pitcher, not a fastballer. His pitches never got 90 mph. He was the best at working the edges of the plate


19 posted on 01/07/2014 1:20:49 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Talisker

Fails? I think I hit the nail on the head! ;-)


20 posted on 01/07/2014 1:21:21 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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