[Haiku Guy]

The Soviets retired six Alfas by 1990 and the seventh in 1996. The successor Victor III and Akula boats were, like their NATO rivals, balanced—and thus far more fearsome in combat. Even if they were slower and lower-diving than the Alfas.

Never forget that Toshiba Corporation cooperated with the Soviets to get around US export licences so the Soviets could buy the high-tech tooling they needed to produce quieter screws for the Akula class boats.

They knew what they were doing and that it was illegal, but the money was too good, so they did it anyway.

Toshiba is on my Lifetime Boycott List, and they should be on yours, too.

[OldMissileer]

Never forget that Toshiba Corporation cooperated with the Soviets to get around US export licences so the Soviets could buy the high-tech tooling they needed to produce quieter screws for the Akula class boats.

I was fighting the Cold War when Toshiba did this and since then I have never even glanced at any of their products when I decide to make a purchase.

[Riley]

Toshiba is on my Lifetime Boycott List, and they should be on yours, too.

It is, and for this very reason.

[Charles Martel]

Never forget that Toshiba Corporation cooperated with the Soviets to get around US export licences so the Soviets could buy the high-tech tooling they needed to produce quieter screws for the Akula class boats.

Yep. The computers and milling machines were shipped in 1983 and 1984; improvements to Soviet subs were noted by 1987. Submarined by Japan and Norway.