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Huxley to Orwell: My Hellish Vision of the Future is Better Than Yours (1949)
Open Culture ^ | March 17, 2015 | Jonathan Crow

Posted on 03/17/2015 3:54:30 PM PDT by EveningStar

In 1949, George Orwell received a curious letter from his former high school French teacher.

Orwell had just published his groundbreaking book Nineteen Eighty-Four, which received glowing reviews from just about every corner of the English-speaking world. His French teacher, as it happens, was none other than Aldous Huxley who taught at Eton for a spell before writing Brave New World (1931), the other great 20th century dystopian novel.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Society
KEYWORDS: 1984; aldoushuxley; bravenewworld; dystopia; dystopian; future; georgeorwell; huxley; nineteeneightyfour; orwell; sciencefiction
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1 posted on 03/17/2015 3:54:30 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Borges; DollyCali; Perdogg

ping


2 posted on 03/17/2015 3:55:01 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Nineteen Eighty-Four and Brave New World.

Went from Science Fiction to Democratic Operations and Instruction Manuals.


3 posted on 03/17/2015 3:57:04 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: EveningStar

Orwell’ s characters were well aware that things could be better, but we’re just afraid to mention it. In Huxley’ s novel, most of the characters were happy with the society they lived in, being bred and conditioned for it like goldfish in a bowl.


4 posted on 03/17/2015 4:01:08 PM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: EveningStar

Brave New World does seem more likely than 1984, IMHO


5 posted on 03/17/2015 4:01:37 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: EveningStar

Yet Vonnegut may have been most accurate of all.

We’re living in the world of Harrison Bergeron nearly 60 years early.


6 posted on 03/17/2015 4:04:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: jmcenanly
being bred and conditioned for it like goldfish in a bowl.

Oh, you mean like "Millennials"?

7 posted on 03/17/2015 4:05:35 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: muir_redwoods
Brave New World is more prescient because it makes sex and offspring the centerpiece of government control, and from this rearranging it can manipulate humanity in any direction it chooses.

Saint John Paul wasn't kidding, wasn't waxing hyperbolic, when he stated:

As goes the family, so goes the nation, and so goes the world in which we live.
8 posted on 03/17/2015 4:06:16 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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9 posted on 03/17/2015 4:06:54 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: muir_redwoods
You ain't been paying attention.

We are presently LIVING '1984'.

10 posted on 03/17/2015 4:08:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: EveningStar

I bought an old 1950s radio drama adaptation of “Brave New World” and it is very good. At the beginning of the show, Huxely says a few words. I remember two points: he wrote it as a warning and if he had written it now (1950s) he would not have placed it so far in the future.


11 posted on 03/17/2015 4:14:17 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Lazamataz

Ditto.


12 posted on 03/17/2015 4:16:27 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Lazamataz

I don’t recall Winston Smith having a gun safe, a private home or his own car. I can shoot back but I think a Brave New World could be imposed with very little objection from most.


13 posted on 03/17/2015 4:20:12 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: EveningStar

We are, as the saying goes,”Living the dream.”


14 posted on 03/17/2015 4:25:54 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: EveningStar
In 1949, George Orwell received a curious letter from his former high school French teacher.

Eton College wasn't your typical high school.

Whether the future would be more like Huxley's vision or Orwell's was long a subject for debate. It's still an open question. But a lot has fallen away. Much of each book seems more about its own time, rather than about ours or the future. And each looks exaggerated now. We may be going down the path Huxley feared (or less likely, the one Orwell dreaded), but so much will be different that we'll find it hard to recognize ourselves in his satire.

15 posted on 03/17/2015 4:32:00 PM PDT by x
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To: EveningStar

Your choice, it seems:

Soma

Victory Gin


16 posted on 03/17/2015 4:33:33 PM PDT by dynachrome (Government can't give us anything that it doesn't first take away)
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To: EveningStar

Belief is a funny thing.

Belief is fluid and seems directly related to the willingness of each individual to explore, for themselves, what is truth.

Christians, over the years, got a bad rap when their only answer was to say “Because the Bible says so”, when challenged. While it may be true, it left them looking foolish in the eyes of so called, scientific reason.

It seems to my that things have come full circle.

Today, it is the atheist that resorts to authority while the Christian is asking them the questions. Questions about the science, the methods used and conclusions they promote.

Human nature remains the same.

There are some that accept authority and others that question authority.


17 posted on 03/17/2015 4:40:25 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I read both of these years ago. I thought 1984 was by far better written, in fact it scared the daylights out of me and when I finished it and closed the cover I made a vow that I would never read it again, even if someone held a gun to my head.

But I have come to think that Brave New World was very prescient. And I would be willing to read it again.

And didn’t Brave New World have a somewhat happier ending?


18 posted on 03/17/2015 4:41:09 PM PDT by jocon307 (Tell it like it is.)
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To: jocon307

Somewhat. It ends with the Savage continuing to constantly flagellate himself and John commits suicide.


19 posted on 03/17/2015 4:49:21 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: cripplecreek

Never heard of it, so I googled the name.
WOW I must read that!


20 posted on 03/17/2015 5:02:52 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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