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Opinion: Will California use congestion to coerce motorists?
Sacramento Bee ^ | June 22, 2015 | Dan Walters

Posted on 07/06/2015 2:55:41 PM PDT by Lonely Bull

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Three months ago, Brown’s Department of Transportation, fulfilling a 2009 legislative mandate, began circulating a draft of a California Transportation Plan, aimed at setting policy for the next quarter-century.

Citing California’s commitments to reducing greenhouse gases and improving access to non-automotive transportation, the CTP proposes to reduce automotive travel by increasing motorists’ taxes, flatly rejecting “road capacity enhancing strategies,” and urging the state to “avoid funding projects that add road capacity.”

Implicitly, therefore, it contends that increasing traffic congestion and the cost of driving would compel Californians to abandon their cars in favor of transit, bicycles and other non-automotive modes.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: brown; caifornia; caltrans; congestion; ctp; jerrybrown

1 posted on 07/06/2015 2:55:41 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

Guess it is ok when a lib does it but when Christy shuts down 2 lanes all hell breaks loose 24/7.


2 posted on 07/06/2015 3:01:09 PM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Lonely Bull

Government versus the people.

Again.


3 posted on 07/06/2015 3:24:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Lonely Bull
Governor Moonbeam hasn't changed. In 1976, he tried the same thing--restricting the fast lane of the Santa Monica Freeway in Los Angeles to high-occupancy vehicles (the "Diamond Lane"), creating gridlock not only on the freeway but on surface streets as well.

So let's get out the Donna Summer eight-tracks and sip some Cold Duck. As Yogi Berra would say, this feels like déjà vu al over again.

4 posted on 07/06/2015 3:34:10 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Lonely Bull

Sounds like he’s softening up his people for ROAD PRICING...where you really, really, need to drive somewhere, because it will cost you HUGE BUCKS.

...of course the poor will get it rebated.


5 posted on 07/06/2015 4:06:08 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Lonely Bull

A freaking BICYCLE?! What is California becoming, Beijing in the 1970’s?


6 posted on 07/06/2015 4:10:52 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: Lonely Bull

Back to the 70s with the retro throwback Jerry Geezer Brown.

He did this before. If we don’t build it, they won’t come - so he said.

They came anyway. The Bay Area is now a permanent traffic jam. Used to be just LA. And that’s after they actually did finally update certain critical roads.

But he lives in the hallucination called his brain, and the knee jerk Rat clowns here keep voting for him.

Ya gits whatcha deserves.


7 posted on 07/06/2015 4:24:41 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: BobL

because it will cost you HUGE BUCKS. —

Oh Oh Oh!!!! Please finish that bullet train - NOW.

We all need it soooo bad.


8 posted on 07/06/2015 4:27:26 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: Lonely Bull

Another good argument for kicking out the illegals.


9 posted on 07/06/2015 4:28:27 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Lonely Bull

The taxpayers paid billions to “improve” the 405 freeway thru the Sepulveda pass in Los Angeles. Construction still ongoing. They put in car pool lanes!

20 years ago I could drive the 43 miles to my relatives place in about an hour. Today it might on a holiday like Christmas be an hour (no traffic) but it usually is nearing 2.5 hours on a bad road that is a proving ground for cars tests!


10 posted on 07/06/2015 4:32:29 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Lonely Bull

Same crap moonbeam pulled first time around, why the morons who voted for him expected anything else is beyond me.


11 posted on 07/06/2015 5:03:42 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Lonely Bull

The kooks are also trying to take away one of three lanes from El Camino Real from San Mateo to San Jose and make it a fully dedicated bus lane — all part of the “We know what’s best for you” elitist attitude to get you out of your car and onto a bicycle, carpool, bus, or train. These people are absolutely insane and they infect every level of government.


12 posted on 07/06/2015 5:10:58 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: Lonely Bull
Man, there was a time when California WAS the quintessential American paradise. I mean, it was just the most magical state in the world.

Now the state is nothing more than Haiti.

13 posted on 07/06/2015 5:14:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Now the state is nothing more than Haiti.

No, California is better because Haiti probably doesn't have many bike lanes. They make everything vibrant and livable! (Yes, those two words are actually quite popular among a certain crowd. I even looked up "two wheels good, four wheels bad," and there seem to be people using it unironically.)

14 posted on 07/06/2015 5:32:23 PM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: Fiji Hill

and he stopped construction of the 210 freeway east of San Dimas. It was finally completed 25 years later.


15 posted on 07/06/2015 5:38:48 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (defund Obama care and amnesty. Impeach for Benghazi and IRS and fast and furious.)
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To: Lonely Bull

Yes. As is typical of LIB asshats, they are mentally ill.


16 posted on 07/06/2015 5:53:42 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The kooks are also trying to take away one of three lanes from El Camino Real from San Mateo to San Jose and make it a fully dedicated bus lane — all part of the “We know what’s best for you” elitist attitude to get you out of your car and onto a bicycle, carpool, bus, or train.

I know about the effort, though I'm not deeply familiar with it. The region has similar efforts, such as in Oakland. I understand that there has been opposition from businesses along the route, since this plan sacrifices much parking. Of course, the plans have been approved. (Parking is bad!!!!! Yes, people actually believe that.)

These people are absolutely insane and they infect every level of government.

Depending on the person, I might use words other than "insane"; at least to me, "insanity" suggests an "insanity defense" and a possible mitigation of culpability.

17 posted on 07/06/2015 5:57:21 PM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: morphing libertarian
and he stopped construction of the 210 freeway east of San Dimas. It was finally completed 25 years later.

I remember that. His rationale was that if the freeway were built, people would move into the area. They did anyway, and soon they had to extend the 210 to relieve congestion on Foothill Blvd., Baseline Rd., etc.

Had the 210 been extended in the mid-'70's, it would have been built mostly through uninhabited open space. When it was finally built, it had to plow through neighborhoods at a cost of billions of dollars more.

18 posted on 07/06/2015 8:53:39 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

I recall it differently. I lived between the right-of-way and Foothill off of Town in Claremont. La Verne andRancho Cucamonga were already building on the north see of the right-of-way. By 1980 Foothill Blvd was congested from La Verne to Fontana.


19 posted on 07/06/2015 8:58:47 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (defund Obama care and amnesty. Impeach for Benghazi and IRS and fast and furious.)
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To: New Perspective

Ah, Crispy Cream is just a liberal turned inside out.


20 posted on 07/07/2015 4:23:20 AM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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