Posted on 01/17/2016 1:16:51 AM PST by RC one
-- The laws 1790 being the first law written by the first Congress clearly states that those children born to US citizens over the seas or not within the boundaries of the United States are citizens of natural birth. --
Let's see what the law says.
And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided ... [conditional not relevant for this argument]That is not a definition or an equivalence, even in plain usage. In fact, it is opposite. The thing described is not, by ordinary definition, the thing named, but for purposes of law we will pretend so. The language creates a legal fiction.
I notice that Canada has birthright citizenship too btw.
Where was Ted Cruz born again?
I'll save you the trouble. he was born in Canada where he gained Candian citizenship by virtue of being born in Canada.
Except that Cruz's mom stayed on in Canada for a few years after the divorce.
Accept it. The more we learn, the worse it looks for Cruz. If Cruz's situation were to be okay, we'd be opening ourselves to a whole lot of people without allegiance to the US being eligible, because of their circumstance being like Cruz's.
What a shame he gave up his Canadian citizenship. Perhaps Cruz would've been eligible for highest office there.
Before you waste nay time doing the research, I'll answer it for you. They have no standing. More importantly, the U.S. Constitution gives no role to Federal courts in a case involving a constitutional interpretation in a presidential election. If a candidate is ineligible to serve, the recourse is for the Electoral College to refuse to seat him. The authority to deal with disputed elections ultimately rests with Congress, not the Federal courts.
Tribe was one of Cruz’ law school professors?
Secondly, I fail to see where Trump or any of the others are wrong. I think even Tribe is saying here, that the matter is not resolved. If you’re an originalist, as Cruz is, then he is NOT eligible, if you are a living constitutionalist... he probably is eligible.
BOTTOM LINE, contrary to what Judge Napolitano says, it is NOT settled.
It happens to be the standard in America... and in Canada....where Ted Cruz was born.
Cruz will move for dismissal on standing, justicability and ripeness grounds. It is Cruz who controls whether or not the case is decided on the merits. He does not want a decision on the merits. He will lose, or the court will again subvert the constitution.
I feel like I want to like Ted Cruz but he has really put us in a dilemma here by refusing to face facts. He’s not stupid. he has to know what he’s doing.
I have a simple solution. Don’t allow pregnant women out of the country!
How many Americans have your knowledge of this subject? More than .001% or less than .001%?
All the DNC has to do is threaten to sue on this subject and it could strongly affect the outcome in the general election.
This is a needless argument we are having and it will not go away. It will be argued, contested and litigated without end. This is a trap, set by who?; but it is a trap.
Consider this: The Constitution says “natural born citizen”. Period. That phrase has been under attack as much as “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Now consider: A defense of “natural born citizen” for John McCain, Mitt Romney and now, Ted Cruz had to be made. I won’t even mention the half breed who has no valid proof. What is happening here is a deliberate attempt to undermine the Constitution and pave the way for someone who has no right to be President.
Cruz should do what is right for the country, not his ego. And Trump should back off. Stick to the issues that have dominated the campaign: illegal immigration, jobs, taxes. That’s a winner; this trap is not.
She was married, working, and raising her family in Canada. That’s not a vacation or any kind of temporary circumstance. She made a choice.
I suppose you support anchor baby citizenship too.
Excellent analogy, Cboldt
Honestly, I think it’s just some Americans that are bringing it up and they’re bringing it up because they see it as being a threat as you have just suggested. It’s beyond Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.
Who issued Rixks BC ? The state department of the country of Cuba ?
Why not let anyone run for President? Illegals? Mexican Nationals, Syrians? Just dump that citizenship thing. Are we not all Citizens of the world? (sic)
The proper plaintiff could only be the American people.
Thanks. Hey, there is a reason it’s called “con” law.
YES. The camel’s nose in the tent
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