Posted on 05/15/2016 9:32:08 AM PDT by EinNYC
“it’s all across our country.”
Don’t over-generalize. NYC, Nashville, and Orlando have nothing to do with my part of the country. AFAIK we have NEVER had a single incident in any public school of the type described.
I can see why; the outcome was very predictable...
I’m not an advocate of public schools, but I’m in a position where the choice is having children and using the those schools or just not having children. NJ is a high-cost state and if I lived elsewhere my children would never know their grandparents or aunts/uncles/cousins. In my area they aren’t great schools but with a lot of parental involvement they can work. I’ve learned that if your child isn’t in an “honors program” (the equivalent of a standard education 30 years ago) they have been written off already.
My children are in classes with the Asians, who have parents with similar outlooks; they don’t expect the schools themselves to “mold” their children. They do have history and math and English and science; the basket weaving classes are there for those who lack ambition (or parents riding them to learn). I’ve gone to both, and I have a fairly good idea of the differences; if I had my druthers I’d use private schools, but they aren’t what they were 30 years ago either. Their only benefit now is their better disciplinary options; they’ve lowered their standards because enrollments are down (due to our high property taxes). There also can be little expectation your child will graduate as they are never far off from shutting down (for the same reason: low enrollment). As far as facilities, computer equipment, etc. they lag the public schools, which have access to the taxpayers’ wallets.
I heard of the "foster care" scheme a while ago and researched it a little.
Mom declares she "cannot care" for her little darling any more, and "gives him up" to foster care. The system preferentially places kids with family, so grandma volunteers to be foster parent and collects a significant stipend per foster child.
Incredible; thanks for outlining how it works.
It is a micro-aggression to expect any adult behavior of our permanent unassimilated underclass...
Well then grandma's doing a lousy job of childrearing. Almost typically, if you call the home of one of those animal kids, and if it isn't disconnected (a fairly frequent occurrence), grandma is not aware of any of the kid's activities or even whether they're IN school. Not infrequently, on Parent-Teacher nights, it's an older sibling who comes to the school, not a parent. Either the parent is working, I guess, or they are incapacitated in some way. Pretty bad when a sibling has to come and hear all the smack about their brother or sister, and then I really wonder if anything I told them will even make it home. Occasionally you see people who are not related to the foster kid and who seem sincere about wanting to help the kid, but that is rare. I will tell you this: it is fairly uncommon that a student has the same last name as his parent/guardian. The worse the school, the more uncommon. You can't take the simplest things for granted in the ghetto, I guess.
If you are willing to put in the time required for re-education, for deprogramming from all the socialist, sex crap that is being forcefed to the children at school.If you can afford that time then you can homeschool. If you can’t take the time and you don’t homeschool you are raising college snowflakes and Democrat socialists. They may not show it in their first 16 years but they will blossom in college and the sex training they recieve courtesy of the taxpayers is the hardest to counter. Most of that needs to not be heard in the first place because it nice sounding crap and they are far from ready for that kind of information, even if it were straight and without the pressure, when they get it Rarely a bright child will slough it all off. Expense is not an excuse. Homeschooling can be accomplished with usually no more expense than you are out of pocket for your kids to go to public school. And it is a shared endeavour. Once you are involved you find out that there are many others doing it in your community and they share duties and talents. The private schools and parochials will be glad to include your kids in sports teams and bands so that they have enough participants to have those things. Some of the charter schools will do the same. I still say public school is child abuse and good primarily for those whose children serve as social ornaments and nothing more so are kept in others’ care, the state’s, for as much of the day as possible.
I never thought of that about trailer parks. In the small city where I live that observation does not serve but I I know Birmingham and Tampa and what you say- yes, that makes a lot of sense. Where they are situated is in mostly “white” areas with property values that put houses and decent apartments out of reach of the under 20 dollar an hour guys.
There is at least one mostly black trailer park that serves the same purpose, actually a safer neighborhood and better schools. That said, drugs are increasingly getting into the parks and the attendant violence is following. The trailer parks around here have deteriorated over the last 20 years and are mostly slums, but as it is still a small city, nothing like the big city slums even in Tallahassee and Pensacola.
It’s good to hear that you have not had this type of problem in your schools.
Much of the sex ed in public schools is done in the wealthiest and the poorest; most teachers won’t touch it with a ten-foot pole. We’ve had these discussions with our children.
As far as expense, my tuition per child in the public school is over $2K per year; there simply isn’t enough to afford both systems. Keep knocking parents for “child abuse” and you’d better learn Spanish, Hindi, Farsi, etc.; you are reinforcing the sentiment that people shouldn’t have kids if they can’t afford the education alternatives you propose. The replacement kids speak the languages outlined above; you’ll need to communicate with them as they fill the country.
Private schools here in NJ have lost their luster because they accept anyone, lose the best teachers who have to leave for the public districts for better pay/benefits, and they close on relatively short notice. My town isn’t ghetto enough to have a charter school (yet).
We have a couple of trailer parks in decent areas that pre-date the development of the larger community; otherwise they are just a safe zone in racial (not general crime) terms for poor whites. Here in NJ our cities have few white residents at all; poor whites could never survive there.
Homeschooling is generally just as affordable as the expenses of Public schooling and I am including ancillary expenses that you would not feel the need for in home schooling. You are making excuses for your own preference for the System and socialism. Teachers are REQUIRED to do the sex ed and sex ed is not restricted to separate classes or health or science classes but infuses the whole curriculum. My wife is a school teacher in a southern small city that has not felt the worst of it all yet but the differences between now and just 3 years ago, while not obvious with blinders on your head, are glaring when you make side by side comparisons. She retires this year because she has reached the mandatory retirement age but she says she does not want to teach next year’s curriculum at all because it is finally coming all down on her own classroom- she teaches primary Spec Ed and has heretofore been left alone to teach real stuff as SpecEd has been an orphan child of the System. Some of her LD kids have left her class able to read and figure better than the “normal” kids in higher grades. No longer.
Laws and reality are two different things; kids still bring in cupcakes for birthdays despite the ban, and teachers discard what they want from curriculums.
I have no preference for the system or socialism; I can’t it myself, and in both systems I lose.
I believe that was Big Mike from The Blind Side.
I taught briefly in Bryan TX, and the entire experience can be summed up with what one of my students told me:
“My momma says I don’t have to listen to you because you’re white”.
Stephen F. Austin Middle School. There was actually another FReeper there who I will not name because she was a bit of a Kool Aid drinker.
When my friend was teaching in Nashville he was told by one of his students that Lincoln was a Democrat and when the teacher said that he was a Republican, the student told him he was lying. The teacher had a master’s degree in American History and these kids didn’t trust him. Sad.
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