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Researchers just found a second 'Dyson Sphere' star - But still no aliens
Science Alert ^ | 9/2/16 | Bec Crew

Posted on 09/02/2016 7:06:05 PM PDT by LibWhacker

When astronomers discovered a strange pattern of light near a distant star called KIC 8462852 back in October, it was like nothing anyone had observed before.

When a planet passes in front of star, the star’s brightness usually dips by around 1 percent, but KIC 8462852 has been experiencing dips of up to 22 percent, suggesting that something huge is zooming past. And now a second star with strange dips in brightness has been identified.

Named EPIC 204278916, the star is estimated to be about the size of our Sun in diameter, but has only half its mass.

It was discovered by NASA's Kepler spacecraft in 2014, and ever since, a team of astronomers led by Simone Scaringi from the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Germany have been keeping tabs on its dips in light, or 'light curves'.

And this thing is even stranger than KIC 8462852.

The researchers report that over 78.8 days of observations, EPIC 204278916 displayed irregular dimming of up to 65 percent for around 25 consecutive days.

As we mentioned above, something as huge as a planet orbiting a star will cause it to dim just 1 percent, so what could possibly be big enough to cause a dimming of 65 percent?

Back when researchers were trying to explain the irregular and large dips in brightness of KIC 8462852 - also known as Tabby’s star - they came up with two plausible explanations and one... not-so-plausible explanation.

The first plausible explanation was that the large and irregular light curves were being caused by a massive swarm of comets orbiting the star.

The second suggests that KIC 8462852 is a 'distorted star' that spins so fast, it becomes 'oblate', meaning it has a larger radius at the equator than it does at the poles.

As Paul Gilster from Centauri Dreams explained, "This produces higher temperatures and 'brightening' at the poles, while the equator is consequently darkened."

The not-so-plausible explanation is that the dimming is being caused by a kind of Dyson Sphere - a gigantic sphere made of solar panels that completely encircles a star, featured in several science fiction stories.

"Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilisation to build," Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, told The Atlantic at the time of the discovery.

Since then, neither plausible explanation has turned out to be all that convincing.

Researchers have pretty much rejected the 'distorted star' hypothesis, and a study back in January asserted that for a star to dim by about 20 percent over the course of an entire century, it would require some 648,000 comets - each about 200 kilometres wide - to have transited it, which isn’t exactly plausible.

But what about a dust disk?

The German team behind the new EPIC 204278916 observations suggests that its massive dips in the light curve could be caused by the existence of a protoplanetary disk that’s oriented 'edge-on' in relation to Earth. That orientation could mean it's not only blocking the light from the star at certain times, we're also at the wrong angle to be viewing its own infrared radiation.

A protoplanetary disk is a rotating disk of dense gas and dust that tends to surround a newly formed star, which is plausible in this case, seeing as EPIC 204278916 appears to be relatively young - no older than 11 million years. To put that in perspective, our Sun is estimated to be around 4.5 billion years old.

"Many disks are very thin, and we’re used to seeing them at an angle. However, every once in a while, we’re bound to be aligned with a star that has its disk oriented edge-on to us, which means that any infrared radiation would be invisible," Ethan Siegel explains over at It Starts With a Bang.

"Young Stellar Objects (YSOs) are known to have the large flux dips that this weird star has, and they’ve recently been shown to come in a variety of inclination angles."

The best part is the hypothesis could be applied to KIC 8462852 too, says Siegel.

While KIC 8462852's age was initially estimated to be hundreds of millions of years old, a number of astronomers have argued that it could be much younger - just like EPIC 204278916.

And even if it's not, mature stars have been known to host rings of 'cometary-like debris', or dust, called circumstellar disks, which always include a vast outer disk, but often an inner one as well.

One of these circumstellar disks could be surrounding KIC 8462852 in an eccentric orbit that's messing with our observations in a similar way to an edge-on protoplanetary disk.

"If this star turns out to be younger than is generally accepted (which many professional observers think it is), if it has a disk that happens to be edge-on (so we don’t see the infrared flux), and if there’s either a warped inner disk or cometary-like debris, then what we’ve discovered is a new stage in the early evolution of a class of stars!" Siegel explains.

The German team's observations have yet to go through the formal peer-review process, so they're very much up for debate at this stage. They've just gone up on pre-print site arXiv.org, so other researchers now have the opportunity to try and poke holes in their hypothesis.

It's going to take a whole lot more research to figure out if this hypothesis can explain the weirdness of KIC 8462852.

But with Kepler expected to make new observations of EPIC 204278916 next year, and researchers gearing up to point the Las Cumbres Observatory Global Telescope Network at KIC 8462852 for a full year, we might not have to wait too long for answers.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: dyson; dysonsphere; epic204278916; haltonarp; kic8462852; sphere; star; tabbysstar
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1 posted on 09/02/2016 7:06:06 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Keep looking. We know Elvis is hiding somewhere!!!


2 posted on 09/02/2016 7:07:26 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: LibWhacker

Cue the alien guy!


3 posted on 09/02/2016 7:07:27 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: LibWhacker

If it was a complete Dyson Sphere we would not be able to see the star.


4 posted on 09/02/2016 7:08:53 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
All I want to know is, when are the aliens coming to kick our asses and turn us into food?

They ain't coming all this way to say "nanoo nanoo" or "we come in peace" or some stupid crap like that. They're coming because they've run out of food and we're next!

5 posted on 09/02/2016 7:09:08 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: reg45
If it was a complete Dyson Sphere we would not be able to see the star.

If it was a real Dyson, it'd never lose suction either!

6 posted on 09/02/2016 7:09:42 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

>>Gerry & The Pacemakers - You’ll Never Walk Alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV5_LQArLa0<<

On the butts of libtard AGW warriors?

Oh wait, that is Tyson...

Never mind


7 posted on 09/02/2016 7:14:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Never Trump=Always hiLIARy)
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To: usconservative

And charge you an exorbitant amount to ‘suck’.


8 posted on 09/02/2016 7:16:01 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yep, those Dyson’s are expensive vacuum’s!


9 posted on 09/02/2016 7:17:08 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: LibWhacker

I found these aliens. They are always loitering at the Home Depot.


10 posted on 09/02/2016 7:17:46 PM PDT by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: usconservative

There aren’t any aliens.


11 posted on 09/02/2016 7:20:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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12 posted on 09/02/2016 7:21:28 PM PDT by FairWitness (Everything is easy, once you've done it once)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Good Evening
13 posted on 09/02/2016 7:30:28 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: FairWitness

Great fiction. Loved it.


14 posted on 09/02/2016 7:34:01 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: LibWhacker

When light take 1500 years to reach us, it may be distorted.

Old light through new eyes is hindsight.


15 posted on 09/02/2016 7:34:45 PM PDT by soycd
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To: LibWhacker

Who has the “I’m not saying it was aliens ... but it was aliens” pic?


16 posted on 09/02/2016 7:36:32 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (#NeverTrumpers: "commercial self-interest masquerading as ideological purity")
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To: usconservative
They ain't coming all this way to say "nanoo nanoo" or "we come in peace"


17 posted on 09/02/2016 7:46:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: LibWhacker

Imagery resolution insufficient to see the For Rent sign.


18 posted on 09/02/2016 7:53:37 PM PDT by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: LibWhacker

19 posted on 09/02/2016 7:58:23 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: FairWitness

I hope they're friendly.

20 posted on 09/02/2016 8:07:24 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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