Posted on 11/27/2016 6:08:06 AM PST by Eddie01
“The dictator of Cuba has died!!!!!FINALY!!!!”
So starts the trumpeter Arturo Sandoval’s much-shared Facebook post, written in the early morning hours after Fidel Castro’s death was announced.
“I'm happy that they'll cremate him, at least his bones will not contaminate the ground,” punctuated Sandoval, summing what thousands of Cuban exiles felt.
Sandoval never minced words when he spoke about Castro and his dictatorship. His struggles as a musician and a husband where chronicled in the made-for-TV movie For Love or Country: The Arturo Sandoval Story (with Andy Garcia playing the role of the trumpet virtuoso), including Dizzy Gillespie’s “discovery” of Sandoval and Sandoval’s efforts to leave the island.
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The man is gone, the evil legacy that came with him is another question. May the Lord quicken the hearts of all Cubans and shrug off the wicked, proud plans of mankind in favor of the grace of God for all.
Cubans know what a brutal dictator castro was. The American left knows, and still admires him because he gave the people “free” healthcare and education.
Anyone feel free to argue my point but isn’t it accurate to say that Fidel and his core associates and henchmen surely number less than 1 % of the population. I am not counting the army who by and large do what they are told or face a firing squad.
So, going one step further, and assuming less than 1 % is accurate, the Cuban people have either “allowed” communism to be inflicted upon them for 58 years OR they want it! If this analysis is true and correct, no American should feel sorry for Cuba.
They were conditioned to “allow” it by the initial ten years of regular round-ups for firing squads.
Most activist politicians drawn to the left are drawn there because it affords them the best opportunity to elevate themselves into ‘messiahs’. I'm very serious. They talk about ‘the people’ as a mass of ignorance beneath them, who need to be guided by their amazing and wise selves. They don't really care about ‘healthcare’ or ‘education’. They care about stature, and making themselves into historical figures. Pathetic.
“Cubans know what a brutal dictator castro was. The American left knows, and still admires him because he gave the people “free” healthcare and education.”
Most activist politicians drawn to the left are drawn there because it affords them the best opportunity to elevate themselves into ‘messiahs’. I’m very serious. They talk about ‘the people’ as a mass of ignorance beneath them, who need to be guided by their amazing and wise selves. They don’t really care about ‘healthcare’ or ‘education’. They care about stature, and making themselves into historical figures. Pathetic.
Truth
‘The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones.’
And Fidel is not even going to leave bones, as he is going to be cremated. Not that much of anything that could be called “good” in the moral sense was ever done by him or his regime.
There’s no “Hitler Finds Out Castro has died” YouTube yet. I checked.
So then, your argument leans toward making the assertion that the Cuban people endured 58 years of the Castro brothers because they were intimidated by their firing squads????
I think that’s right but what does that say about the Cuban people when you contrast them to any number of “people’s” around the world who rose up and through off tyranny even though thousands of them died in the process?
From the Gulag Archipelago:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
That is the answer: AWARENESS.
Leaving the benign dictatorship of Batista, the new revolution of Castro seemed like a good thing for a while.
Hell, he was even on the Tonight Show in New York as I remember. He was new and glamorous.
Many, many countries have fallen under dictatorships or totalitarian regimes. It happens because the people are not “aware” of its happening. Visit your local junior college.
Some of my ancestors were serfs in 1600s in what later became Germany. One was fortunate and smart and immigrated here in 1709. Who knew the outcome?
Followed by 1/3 of the population fleeing Cuba.
I don’t think he understands how dictatorships work.
I have sympathy for the Cuban people.
great comments and SPOT ON.
It begs the question too of “what REALLY happened at the Bay of Pigs?” Was it Kennedy’s fault or did “the Cubans” invading cower and shrink as they landed on the beach in the face of real hot lead coming their way and Kennedy knew it was all doomed to failure so he pulled the plug?”
I’m not accusing. I don’t know. I admit. But, I think it is a question worth asking since this 21st century we have no media or government we can trust anymore.
Yea you are accusing. The people fought and died but we’re denied air cover because Kennedy betrayed them. He left them there to die.
Before you slander the Cuban people at least educate yourself
...........I’ve heard that all my life as obviously you have. The question I am posing is whether or not that is true or false?
Very true. Robert Kenedy convinced him to leave them there alone.
Sir, it’s posters like you that discourage other freepers from posting at all thereby lowering intelligent discourse on this forum generally.
I specifically said “I don’t know” and “I’m not accusing” and I am just posing a question. Most people would understand that. If all freepers were to submit to a fear of other freepers with your hyper sensitivity, we could never be able to discuss any important event.
If your a Cuban, why don’t you respond with a factual statement on the contrare and educate us all in doing so instead of getting your feelings hurt by a question.
Thanks for your consideration of my comments and your generous appraisal. Like you, I have only a general knowledge of the fog of war that confronted all sides at the Bay of Pigs. Our poster The Cuban is much more informed and, I hope, will illuminate us.
My best backgrounding was a good conservative Cuban American debunking of Che in a biography I read almost ten years ago. I knew Che was corrupt and a fake, but that bio really showed me how vile he was.
See:
https://www.amazon.com/Exposing-Real-Che-Guevara-Idolize/dp/1595230521/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1480278972&sr=8-12&keywords=che+guevara+book
for Exposing the Real Che Guevara: And the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him by Humberto Fontova. This is a truly in-depth read on that killer.
I think we all are often lost in understanding events in other places and times. It is normal but lacking that we always compare them to what we are familiar with and are astonished that the participants acted as they did.
We have so much background from that other place and time that we cannot see until we go very much in depth. The old Rockingham Whigs of just prior to 1776 were the intellectual forebears of our colonialists in the Revolution but did they know that? It turns out that the proof they did was so evident at the time it got little mention — the Blue and Buff uniform colors of Washington’s continental army were the colors of the Rockingham Whigs, the party of Edmund Burke. But without that knowledge I picked up from one historian, it is an issue without an answer.
Thanks to you both.
Dude I’m not going to permit your slander to go unanswered. Sorry. Don’t care.
Go read a book there are many on the topic. I’m not a professor.
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