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Why Are Italian-Americans Not Considered Latin(o)s?
Self | December 23, 2016 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 12/23/2016 9:00:01 AM PST by PJ-Comix

One thing that has always amused me is why Italian-Americans are not considered Latins or Latinos (which also means "Latin" in Italian). To get an idea of how absurd this is, Italians (or their ancestors) were the original Latins. On top of that Italians are definitely more Latin than the residents of many countries considered to be populated by Latinos. An example is Mexico where folks entirely Indian or Mestizo are considered Latino in this country but Italian-Americans are not.

I'm figuring this has strictly to do with affirmative action programs. Still, it is amusing that the original Latin people are not considered "Latino" in the USA.

p.s. Are people whose ancestors are all from Spain considered "Latino?" If so this makes the fact that Italian-Americans are not considered Latin(o) even more absurd.


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To: PJ-Comix

Interesting...
The question often asked here as well; tied with the question: who first found himself brave enough eat the ‘things’ deposited by that feathered animal (eggs)?


41 posted on 12/23/2016 9:47:13 AM PST by V K Lee (Is it too early for a President Trump?)
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To: spintreebob

Hypodescent is a principle rule of slavery. Your story proves racism still flourishes in liberal circles.


42 posted on 12/23/2016 9:49:25 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: PJ-Comix

Regular European Spaniards and Portuguese aren’t considered “Latino” either. I know, I’ve checked.
For that matter Cubans don’t really count it seems. The term, for all practical purposes as relates to politics and bureaucracy, is limited to Mexicans, Puerto Ricans


43 posted on 12/23/2016 9:49:53 AM PST by buwaya
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To: PJ-Comix

We Italians are Latinos but the entire ethnic identification thing should be rejected.

It’s a liberal construct designed to divide.


44 posted on 12/23/2016 9:53:24 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: jcon40
Friends of ours who live in Switzerland call Italy “Europe’s Mexico” and say it’s a common reference.

There's also the pithy quote attributed to Napoleon: "Europe stops at the Pyranees."

45 posted on 12/23/2016 9:54:11 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: PJ-Comix

100% with you. The reason is that the goal is to create a victim group with all the privileges that that entails. It is already overly broad, including anyone from a country where Spanish is the predominant language.

A subgoal is to cast anyone of Italian descent as an “oppressor”, since Columbus is generally accepted as Italian.

None of this has anything to do with reality. It’s all about establishing as many victim/oppressor divisions as possible.


46 posted on 12/23/2016 9:56:09 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: PJ-Comix

If they ever met each other they would have eaten each other as well anyway...


47 posted on 12/23/2016 9:56:47 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: PJ-Comix

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Latino

The real definition of Latino is “a person who comes from a country where they speak a derivative of Latin”. Latin is right there in LATINo. Anyone of Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian decent or who comes from one of their derivative countries ( IE, any Latin American country, including Brazil) is Latino.


48 posted on 12/23/2016 10:00:10 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Campion

Not only that, but people who immigrated from Spain have been told by gov’t bureaucrats that they aren’t “Hispanic”. Seriously!

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lolol. Didja hear? Theresa Heinz Kerry is an African American.

Seriously!


49 posted on 12/23/2016 10:05:26 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: glenduh

“The French language developed from vulgar Latin... would you call a Frenchman Latino?”

Latino? - no.

Vulgar? - yes.


50 posted on 12/23/2016 10:08:18 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: PJ-Comix
So can an Italian be considered Latino only by being born in Argentina and then immigrating to the USA? Then magically he is considered Latin (or Latino) while his fellow Italians born in the USA are not?

Yep!

I used to work with a girl from Columbia; blonde hair and blue eyes, who played up her minority ethnicity for all she could milk it for on job applications and school enrollment.

It's all about shared ethnicity because, you know, a dirt-poor Mestizo farm laborer in California so much in common culturally with a blue-eyed, square-jawed lawyer in Montevideo, Uruguay.

51 posted on 12/23/2016 10:10:18 AM PST by Drew68
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To: spintreebob
They were 2 students away from meeting a certain threshhold for a special pot of Federal money when school reached a certain level of Hispanic

Interesting example. Another aspect of fascist-leftist racial bean-counting.

52 posted on 12/23/2016 10:12:05 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PJ-Comix

The term “latino” means someone born in the Americas south of the US or their descendant.

The term “hispanic” means someone born in a Spanish (sometimes Portugese) speaking country or their descendant.

So the terms aren’t applicable to Italians unless you completely redefine the terms.


53 posted on 12/23/2016 10:14:47 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: PJ-Comix
I had never heard the term latino before the 70's. Throughout my school years identification was by country. They are Mexican, Guatemalan, etc., and they identified themselves as citizens of such. That mention presumed one had at least a passing grade in 7th geography and were aware of the language of a nation.

My first hearing of it was it's usage in leftist political cant as a wedge to splinter society, about the same time period as the emergence of the various "Latino/Hispanic" racist organizations.

Latino "male Latin-American inhabitant of the United States" (fem. Latina), 1946, American English, from American Spanish,

a shortening of Latinoamericano "Latin-American" (see Latin America).

As an adjective, attested from 1974.

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Online Etyomolgy Dictionary

54 posted on 12/23/2016 10:16:55 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: PJ-Comix

Perhaps there has been a declaration that their language is not Latin based. As far as I know Rumanians are not officially Latinos, either, even with their Latinate language. Latinos officially only designates Spanish speakers, and not usually even Spanish people.Latino is the chosen Euphemism to get around the former “wetbacks,” “Spicks,” and some others.


55 posted on 12/23/2016 10:35:54 AM PST by arthurus
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To: PJ-Comix

Only if he speaks Argentine Spanish.


56 posted on 12/23/2016 10:36:38 AM PST by arthurus
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To: PJ-Comix
I knew a Californio woman of pure Spanish upper class background yet I believe according to the statistics she would be considered "Latina."

Not brown enough to be a protected class.

Anything European must be discriminated against.

It was from Europe that came the world's leading architecture, philosophy, government, justice, cuisine, science, art, literature, inventions, and law.

It must be oppressed and eradicated, at all costs.

57 posted on 12/23/2016 10:41:21 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: PJ-Comix
So can an Italian be considered Latino only by being born in Argentina and then immigrating to the USA?

For purposes of affirmative action, yes. For general day-to-day not so much. As far as I know, no one has suggested Argentinian-born but-Italian-blood Pope Francis is a Latino.
58 posted on 12/23/2016 10:44:48 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I have lived many years in Central and south Texas, and I think that I can see a difference in Mexicans from near the border compared to Mexicans from Central Mexico. Seems to me that the Central Mexicans look Caucasian, while the border Mexicans look American Indian-(No disrespect meant to anyone.)


59 posted on 12/23/2016 10:47:20 AM PST by matthew fuller (Democrats have not been this apoplectic since Republican Lincoln emancipated THEIR slaves.)
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To: PJ-Comix

If you really want to piss off the la raza crowd, ask them how they like speaking the language of a conquering European army.
Hispanic? Not really. Mayan or whatever variation of sub 5’ local variation.
And oh boy do they like to claim to be high bred “Spanish”.


60 posted on 12/23/2016 11:08:50 AM PST by 9422WMR (President Trump, I like the sound of that!)
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