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U.S. Marine Corps Fielding Improved M2 .50 Cal. MG
Kitup.military.com ^ | 28 Apr, 2017 | MATTHEW COX

Posted on 04/29/2017 9:01:09 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

Ma Deuce is recognized worldwide as the best heavy MG in the world. Improving the best is like putting sprinkles on an ice cream sundae.


21 posted on 04/29/2017 11:13:04 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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To: MtnClimber

FTA: a flash hider that reduces the weapon’s signature by 95 percent at night

I bet the gunners are real happy about that!


22 posted on 04/29/2017 11:16:54 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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There is but one God. And John MOSES Browning is his Prophet.


23 posted on 04/29/2017 11:58:34 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Should have been done 50 years ago.


24 posted on 04/29/2017 12:13:51 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: Chainmail

Should have fielded the MG42 instead of the M60.


25 posted on 04/29/2017 2:29:19 PM PDT by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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To: Wu
Possibly - the MG1 version in 7.62mm NATO, more likely.

The issue would have been whether that crazy high rate of fire would have really been effective in an expeditionary environment.

26 posted on 04/29/2017 4:54:30 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Darksheare

A Man Duece tossing His Junk Around..!

Can’t you get Arrested for That?


27 posted on 04/29/2017 6:34:53 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger

Yes.
Most certainly.


28 posted on 04/29/2017 10:05:20 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: MtnClimber

You mean you had to adjust the headspace and timing every time you changed a barrel? What a wretched pain in the ass!

CC


29 posted on 04/29/2017 10:50:03 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Veni, vidi, Vomui- I came, I saw, I hurled.)
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To: MtnClimber

OR like the 7.62X54 soviet or .303 British. Reloaders hate rimmed cartridges.

CC


30 posted on 04/29/2017 10:54:29 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Veni, vidi, Vomui- I came, I saw, I hurled.)
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To: MtnClimber
The current M2 requires Marines to manually set headspace and timing before firing, after assembly, and after required barrel changes when the barrel becomes extremely hot from high volumes of fire.

What ever happened to water cooled machine guns.

I realize that they weigh substantially more than a modern air cooled MG but for a defensive fixed position that should not matter.

31 posted on 04/30/2017 2:21:02 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Clearly, you never operated a .50: the timing doesn't change when you change the barrel. You always check and adjust timing with a new gun or one that you haven't used before but barrel changing in battle doesn't affect the timing adjustment. (I once investigated an accident where a .50 was fired 1/2 inch out of battery on a pedestal mount, blowing bits of brass into the gunner's groin - the Gunner's Mate had no idea what "timing" meant when he set up the gun).

Headspace just requires screwing the barrel all the way in, then backing off three clicks and then sticking the gauge between the breech face and the barrel. if it's too loose, tighten one click, if it's too tight to fit, unscrew a click.

Easy-Peasey.

32 posted on 05/01/2017 3:59:07 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: MtnClimber

Yea but does it stop this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJPao_T6vR8


33 posted on 05/01/2017 4:09:01 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Celtic Conservative; MtnClimber

I reload a great deal. Will not touch rimmed cartridges. Seen to many good reloaders have serious issues - some very bad - with them.


34 posted on 05/01/2017 4:13:50 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Chainmail

Nope, not aware of the manual of arms for the ma deuce. The stuff I work on is somewhat smaller.

CC


35 posted on 05/01/2017 5:06:17 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Veni, vidi, Vomui- I came, I saw, I hurled.)
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"You mean you had to adjust the headspace and timing every time you changed a barrel? What a wretched pain in the ass!"

Just reacting to your statement.. You shouldn't consider it a "pain in the ass" if you did it often enough. - duck simple.

What, by the way is a "manual of arms" with a .50? How does one do "Present Arms" for example?

I've fired the .50 in combat and over half a million rounds in training/training others, but I'll have to defer to you if you really have carried one on the drill field.

36 posted on 05/01/2017 5:17:01 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Okay, proper care and feeding.

CC


37 posted on 05/01/2017 6:08:41 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Veni, vidi, Vomui- I came, I saw, I hurled.)
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To: Chainmail

“....but I’ll have to defer to you if you really have carried one on the drill field. “

lol...I just happened to hump one from the truck to the tripod - about 25 feet - last weekend. Pickle splitter.


38 posted on 05/01/2017 7:25:59 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Celtic Conservative
Fun stuff, huh?

Most fun training I ever had was firing an M2 from the right front window of a CH-46D helicopter back in '68. I was a "grunt" sergeant in an air wing training squadron in Tustin California and we used to take 4-5 students up to do firing training in the wilds of Camp Pendleton. We had just-returned-from-combat instructor pilots and they were wildmen, so we flew crazy corkscrew inserts and low-level passes, firing at whatever they told us to fire at. Their favorite trick was to have me train the gun as far forward as possible and level and then hold the trigger down while they "strafed" like a fighter plane.

Hard to believe that I got paid for that stuff!

39 posted on 05/01/2017 8:01:11 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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What, by the way is a "manual of arms" with a .50? How does one do "Present Arms" for example?

In the 1960s I was a part of the American contingent for the retirement parade for German General Hepp, finally calling it quits after 50 years service with Reichswehr, Wehrmacht and Bundeswehr. I got to wear multiple hats, including interpreter for our battalion commander and playing tank commander [no gunner needed, no blank 105 salute rounds being available] and elevating the main gun and commander's cupola .50 to full elevation to Event Control radio command Achtung, präsentiert das Gewehr [attention, present rifle] as we passed by the reviewing stand in a 3-tank frontal attack wedge formation.Both our 105mm main gun [M60A1 tank] and the M85 .50 roofgun had rifled barrels, so I guess it was a rifle salute of a sort....

It would be kind of neat to see some bodybuilding moose try to do Queen Ann's Drill with an M2, though. He'd have to be awfully tall for that barrel to clear the ground during the rifle-spin/twirl....FANCY, one rifle spin, HUP!

40 posted on 05/02/2017 3:07:04 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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