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EMP Question
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Posted on 05/14/2017 8:30:57 AM PDT by hardspunned

I have been aware of the serious effect an EMP attack would have on our country for some time. I recently read a most terrifying book, One Second After, and am now motivated to better prepare my family for this possibility. My question regards the viability of a 1987 Toyota 4x4 truck with a 22r carbureted engine. I have been told there is a vulnerable component in the non electronic ignition system. My understanding was that old coil, distributor system was safe.

I have the opportunity to purchase this vehicle and would like to be sure that it can be counted on if needed.


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To: hardspunned

Ha, are you ready to defend this vehicle?


21 posted on 05/14/2017 8:48:16 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Right Brother

So there is not a ton of data on this subject as to automobile affects, specifically. The key here is shielding for critical components. Most folks think of computers and such, and also transmission lines/grids. Large grids and long wires have the most vulnerability because the pulse interacts with them over a large area creating a HUGE power spike. In a car the most likely damaged items will be smaller wires such as micro-circuits (electronics) and longer wires such as coils. While the book you refer takes considerable artistic license with the running of old cars, in theory they would be the easiest to repair and much less dependent on modern electronics, but still vulnerable to EMP. Aside of the electronics: batteries, ignition coil, alternator, starter motor and fuses would all be very subject. Other ignition system components should be OK if you are not too close to the blast. For this to be doable, I would suggest that all component of an ignition system, full set of fuses be stored. Additionally, anything that resembles a coil, alternator, relay, starter motor be stored in a grounded metal box.


22 posted on 05/14/2017 8:48:18 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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Well, if it is true that unshielded electric components get fried, steam vehicles will still work. Jay Leno sure will be getting a lot of use out of his Stanley Steamers, Whites and Dobles.


23 posted on 05/14/2017 8:48:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: EnglishOnly

“how will you get gasoline”

I only need enough to get into town, 40 miles, collect family members and get home. If the effect on autos is nearly as damaging as I’ve been led to believe there will not be much of a post event demand for gas. I suppose if the EMP proof truck was a good idea I would only need to siphon fuel from the thousands of stalled autos littering the roads.


24 posted on 05/14/2017 8:49:14 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: libh8er

Common sense has nothing to do with it. The grid will disappear. Do research.


25 posted on 05/14/2017 8:49:29 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: American in Israel

Without electricity there will not be gas at the gas station. Ergo, no cars.


26 posted on 05/14/2017 8:50:29 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: hardspunned

Jesus. I am stunned at the level of ignorance already on this thread.


27 posted on 05/14/2017 8:51:21 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

“are you ready to defend this vehicle”

yes


28 posted on 05/14/2017 8:51:32 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: Bodega

Lol. Your post only validates and underscores my post.


29 posted on 05/14/2017 8:51:51 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

“Common sense has nothing to do with it. The grid will disappear. “

Wow. So much in just two short sentences.

You’re right, those touting EMP are Chicken Little’s without any common sense screaming the sky is falling.


30 posted on 05/14/2017 8:52:26 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: libh8er

Not just “a city” - a region with a diameter of 1,000 to 1,550 miles. Read about project Starfish and the effect it had on Honolulu 1,500 miles away. Also read about the 1859 Carrington Event and its effect on global telegraphy. Lastly, keep whistling past the graveyard...it definitely keeps the spooks away.


31 posted on 05/14/2017 8:53:03 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Bodega

“Apparently WASH DC up to Baltimore is “hardened” “

There is zero proof of that, just one Internet nerd passing it around and other nerds repeating it like it is gospel. It is how these Internet sensations live: One person quoting the next as proof and it becomes a massive circle jerk.


32 posted on 05/14/2017 8:54:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: hardspunned

Just get an old 2 stoke dirt bike and keep a 55 gallon can of gasoline in your underground bunker and enough ammunition to keep the zombies at bay.


33 posted on 05/14/2017 8:54:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: Terry L Smith

“To put it mildly, an EMP strike “neutralizes” the flow of electrons in anything that needs a flow of electrons to operate.”

THAT’S what you read about EMP??

EMP is a surge of electrons causing a temporary, read: a few milliseconds, spike in electricity. In no way does it have and ability to stop the flow of electrons.

The dumbing down of America continues, we don’t even know what electricity is anymore.


34 posted on 05/14/2017 8:56:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: hardspunned

And who is going to clear the millions of stalled vehicles from the roads? They will be impassable. People will be in survival mode and marshalling the manpower to clear the roads will be impossible.


35 posted on 05/14/2017 8:58:07 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: hardspunned

I have heard that the correct cut-off is a car in the mid-1950s, and that after that it won’t work.

I know Bill, who wrote “One Second After.” I’ve texted him and asked for updates and confirmations of some things, but as Bill often does, he hasn’t responded and will go months without surfacing.


36 posted on 05/14/2017 8:58:11 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Lots of gasoline in millions of stalled vehicles. At least for a few months until it degrades.


37 posted on 05/14/2017 8:59:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: hardspunned

Being the one of the few people in the area driving will just draw gunfire. Where are you going? It’s going to be the same everywhere, chaos and nothing that works.

The operative idea is home survival prep and shelter in place.


38 posted on 05/14/2017 8:59:26 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: P-Marlowe

The problem with all the doomsdayers is they fantasize scenarios as if it were a scripted Hollywood movie. No one has any idea of the unforeseen in a real apocalypse.


39 posted on 05/14/2017 8:59:35 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: hardspunned

I too read Forschen’s novel. Found it quite sobering.
I don’t see any responses addressing the vulnerability of that particular model truck.
The strength of the EMP would have a bearing on the results obviously. So would your circumstances. Location etc.
Some responses seem overly negative.
Reminds me of the futility of only having a , say, 22 against an organized military.
We might have to improvise and do the best we can with what we have. Some preparation is better than none!


40 posted on 05/14/2017 8:59:57 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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