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Always like to hear what the Freepers think... please read and let me know. Thanks!
1 posted on 06/05/2017 8:03:29 AM PDT by John Conlin
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There are far less “conservatives” in reality than would self identify as such.

One must never forget that conservatism and Republicanism are far from synonymous and are becoming less so on a daily basis.

2 posted on 06/05/2017 8:08:35 AM PDT by traderrob6
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Conservatives recognize America;
and do not push GLOBALISM as does the author.

Conservatives are clear about what they want,
e.g. repeal of ObamaCARE, unlike the author.


3 posted on 06/05/2017 8:09:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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Conservative Orthodoxy is dead.

Man is inherently tribal. Both Conservative AND Liberal Orthodoxy seek to deny this fact.

Nationalism is the natural state of man.


4 posted on 06/05/2017 8:12:25 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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It’s hard to discuss ‘conservatism’ or ‘liberalism’ apart from an altogether biased MSM in America.

The MSM (since it’s totally and gratuitously Liberal) has queered the whole equation and poisoned whatever rationale may have been applied in the ‘Conservatism/Liberalism’ debate.


5 posted on 06/05/2017 8:12:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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Wishful thinking. But do not give up, one of these days we may be forced to do such or die.


7 posted on 06/05/2017 8:16:43 AM PDT by mulligan
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"Conservatives recognize America; and do not push GLOBALISM as does the author."

Proof that the author (who brainwashes children
ages K-12 with this) ignores America:

In article:
"world" mentioned 5 times.
"planet" 2 times.
"human" 3 times.
but .... [critical to REAL conservatives]
"America" nope, not there.
"USA" nope, not there, either.

8 posted on 06/05/2017 8:17:10 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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Wholly incoherent first graf. Good grief.


9 posted on 06/05/2017 8:17:47 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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I’m being sucked in UNTIL.....

“The first and most fundamental truth is we, humans, evolved on this planet.”

His FIRST “truth” is a LIE. Humans didn’t “evolve”. Humans are “created” beings.

They never evolved, they aren’t evolving now.

No matter where you stand spiritually, evolution is NOT a scientifically PROVEN fact, It’ a THEORY.


10 posted on 06/05/2017 8:18:37 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Trump is a Truman democrat in all ways but (maybe) one, that Truman was for single-payer health care.

Truman-democrat-ism is where America’s center is, and has been for the last generation at least. Bill Clinton, Bush 43, and Obama all got elected by convincing enough of the American public that they were Truman democrats. Trump, unlike the above triumvirate, is actually one.

Americans don’t want conservatives, and they don’t want liberals. They want their schools and hospitals to run, their roads to be paved and the bridges standing, their streets and homes safe, their borders secure, their stores stocked with necessary goods at reasonable prices, jobs to be available for those who can work, and welfare for those who can’t but not for those who won’t, and to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit when it doesn’t get in the way of anyone else. Democrats who convince enough voters that they can do all of the above get elected; Republicans who convince enough voters that they can do all of the above get elected. That the Democrats have to lie and the Republicans dissemble to do this, that only deepens the cynicism Americans have towards their government.

The progressives have the loudest voice, and the Republicrats the wringingest hands, but Trump not only says what the Americans want to hear, he is working to do it, and Americans are beginning to realize this in spite of the progressives’ voice and the Republicrats’ hand-wringing.


12 posted on 06/05/2017 8:18:59 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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For me, there are too many stripes of Conservatism to declare any set path for them all. I’m a Limited Government Conservative (I want government doing as little as possible), many here are Social Conservatives (they want government to enforce their ideas and ideals), many are Fiscal Conservatives (tight control of budgets for optimal national growth, etc). Personally, I’m hoping my stripe continues to grow and succeed... as I’m sure all of the others do as well, LOL.


14 posted on 06/05/2017 8:23:27 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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As the name states, Conservatism is about CONSERVING the founding values of this country which all revolve around FREEDOM AND SELF DETERMINATION — free from big, oppressive government control. It all started that way and TRUE conservative thinkers want it that way for the country and its REAL citizens.
The opposing force which is loosely refered to as "liberalism", seeks to destroy that right to freedom, for power and control over freedom and liberty, that so many have fought and died for over 200 years. There is nothing complicated about it. Conservatism is NOT DEAD by any warped stretch of the imagination and there are still many that fight to keep that part of our culture alive and well.
15 posted on 06/05/2017 8:31:34 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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does someone actually pay this writer for his thoughts ?


16 posted on 06/05/2017 8:31:37 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOS / PC guy forever and always e)
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I like the article and agree. I’ve thought for a while, “conservatism” isn’t dead, it’s just been redefined and as meaningful as “racism”.

Lindey, MaCain, and other so-caller conservative leaders have seen “liberalism” go of the progressive cliff to the left and decided they can redefine “conservatism” as what used to be left-of center “liberalism”. They are still “to the right” of “liberals” - neither term means what it used to.

My political beliefs (which used to be called “conservative”) are based on a few questions for any issue
1) What is the proper role of government for any issue?
2) What is the proper action of government on this issue WITHIN that role?
3) What are of trade-offs/costs/benefits of that action? With a focus on the long-term results and precedents rather than what happens this year.

For “proper role”, I still consider “minimum government” and “maximum personal freedom” as the defining characteristics. Many “conservative leaders” have started including “individual safety/security” as a significant factor in “proper role” - whether it’s against ISIS, or job loss, or health problems or any number of other real or imagined problems individuals may face. And more than a few have abandoned “minimum government” because that minimizes their personal power to “do the right thing” (or get elected, or make money).

Almost NO “conservative leaders” seem to consider the long-term (5, 10, 50 year) consequences of their actions. To me, one of the most significant aspects of a “conservative” policy is that it doesn’t have long-term negative consequences. Compounding negative consequences is what will destroy any government/society. “conservativism” should conserve our freedom by not allowing freedom to erode gradually for benefit today because the compounding lose of freedoms becomes HUGE over decades even if each individual step is small and “worth it”.


17 posted on 06/05/2017 8:32:28 AM PDT by LostPassword
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The author apparently does not know the history of political thought leading to what the founders gave us and how it makes up the background of Conservatism.

He makes a number of straw arguments and then proceeds to pontificate what he thinks is the only important truth, or most important truth - individual liberty.

Yet, that truth is at the heart of Conservatism and simultaneously is a increasing and rapidly vanishing attribute of any Liberalism left today. The only place individual Liberal is attempted in Liberalism today is in any number of hypocritical ways - for me and not the.

In sum, the author does not understand Conservatism or Liberalism in any practical sense found today.


18 posted on 06/05/2017 8:33:26 AM PDT by Wuli
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Conservatism is misbranded. It’s a stupid term that implies a reactionary cadre. I prefer radical liberal.


20 posted on 06/05/2017 8:35:46 AM PDT by steve8714 (My wife calls me Dr. Smartacus. This makes me happy.)
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Somewhat tortured, John. If you can pinpoint your location
a team of Colorado FReepers can be assembled for a rescue
mission.


21 posted on 06/05/2017 8:37:28 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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There’s new world order conservatism and then there is actual conservatism. We’ve spent the laat 30 years supporting the first kind. It’s time to kill it.


27 posted on 06/05/2017 8:47:47 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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Same Bush blood as Rove Ryan Mitt & Frum


32 posted on 06/05/2017 8:51:06 AM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus: please expose, unveil and then frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised...)
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A “conservative” is defined as “a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.”

Conservatism is dead. “Traditional values” are no longer honored. There is little to conserve any more. It’s now between nationalists and globalists.

A nationalist is somebody who values the safety and well-being of people of his own nation over outsiders. A globalist is somebody who thinks it’s immoral to favor your own people over the “poor and oppressed” of the world.

I am a nationalist. I care about my own family and future descendants the most. I care about the people who share an affinity for classic Western culture and classic Western values; who believe in working for a living and making their own way. Regarding people who might wish to enslave me and my posterity for their benefit, I swear my hostility to them.


35 posted on 06/05/2017 9:01:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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I am NOT a conservative, NOR am I liberal or any other political label. I find myself agreeing with most conservative positions most of the time, but I occasionally favor the liberal viewpoint and often disagree with both. I have my beliefs based on knowledge of history and personal experience. My beliefs and principles are much more important to me than any label concocted by people who seek to categorize me.

I will not vote for anyone, liberal or conservative, who lies to get my vote, or who is so corrupt that they will violate their “principles” for personal gain (not just financial). Labels don’t matter to me, actions, and principles are what I consider to be important.


42 posted on 06/05/2017 9:27:49 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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