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Lot 3573: Singer - 1911A1 — Rock Island Arsenal Auction Company
AuctionZip.com ^ | September 9, 2017 | By Rock Island Auction Company

Posted on 08/11/2017 1:52:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker

I believe the Walkers had a larger
Cylinder capacity and were being
“Overcharged”.

Thanks Swordmaker.


21 posted on 08/11/2017 4:52:01 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I have Exactly the same pistol in my lap,,
Have yet to shoot it.
It weighs 6 pounds!


22 posted on 08/11/2017 5:11:02 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Swordmaker

It’s definitely a Colt, a little holster wear around the muzzle but the finish and bore both look good and the grips are original. Thanks for the help.


23 posted on 08/11/2017 5:18:34 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Swordmaker

Certainly a collectable. A Singer!


24 posted on 08/11/2017 5:25:58 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: Big Red Badger
I have Exactly the same pistol in my lap,,

Have yet to shoot it.

It weighs 6 pounds!

When you get around to it, try 40 or 50 grains max of black powder in each chamber topped off with .454 round ball. It'll hold 60 grains, but that is quite punishing to the wedge (the little bar that holds the barrel and frame together) and your wrist.

25 posted on 08/11/2017 5:34:03 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: dainbramaged
It’s definitely a Colt, a little holster wear around the muzzle but the finish and bore both look good and the grips are original. Thanks for the help.

Up that value to at least $1800. . . probably more. Depending on the finish on the grips, trigger, and hammer, could be lots more.

26 posted on 08/11/2017 6:25:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Big Red Badger
I believe the Walkers had a larger Cylinder capacity and were being “Overcharged”.

That was the exact problem with the original Walkers and why there are so few surviving examples of what should have been a robust gun. Iffy steel content (too much carbon, not enough iron in old steel) resulted in catastrophic failures if the cylinder was overloaded with black powder and then a ball was crammed in compressing the powder. The recommended load was essentially the same as for the later 1860 Army Colt: 35 grains max. Some were cramming up to 60 grains in the Walker merely because the cylinder would hold that much. Modern Walkers with modern steel can handle up to 50 grains of black powder safely. I would still not use 60 grains due to the likelyhood of cross cylinder discharges which is far more likely when the cylinders are overloaded.

27 posted on 08/11/2017 6:41:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
I have a 1911 manufactured in the Springfield Armory in 1914.

Shoots great to this day but my Dad had it milled to put on adjustable sights back in the '50s - reduced it's value from $10K (about) to somewhere around $7K but it will never go for sale - generational hand-me-down.

Won a few competitions with it over the years. Still have the two-tone magazines it came with.

28 posted on 08/12/2017 3:23:22 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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I heard of people at railroad depots kicking boxes aside when the US Army was shipping 1911’s, also.


29 posted on 08/12/2017 10:58:56 AM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: Swordmaker

And cross cylinder discharges are no joke. As you know lubing can help a bit to prevent this.


30 posted on 08/12/2017 11:45:43 AM PDT by Openurmind
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Chainfire .. I believe...

Is the term.

CRISCO grease is commonly use to
Prevent that. Liberally used to
Seal over the compressed Ball.


31 posted on 08/12/2017 7:10:38 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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Yes you are right... Both terms have been used. Ever had it happen? :) I did only one time because I did not take the time to grease my loads. I was very lucky because I was firing an 1861 navy colt reproduction. It just happens to have tapered relief indentations on both sides to let the ball come out unrestricted yet deflect it away on the side it happened. Never really thought about the frame design shape until that happened. :)


32 posted on 08/12/2017 7:22:35 PM PDT by Openurmind
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Notice even at the bottom there is room for the ball to at least exit the chamber.
33 posted on 08/12/2017 7:35:47 PM PDT by Openurmind
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Interesting...
Engineering 160 years ago
Must have been Exciting!

Never experienced a chainfire.

Exquisite photo!


34 posted on 08/12/2017 8:35:10 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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