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The Truth About Spanking
YouTube ^ | October 27, 2016 | Stefan Molyneux

Posted on 08/31/2017 9:19:47 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan

"How to Lower Your Child's IQ," "Why Spanking Does Not Work," and other videos.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Religion; Science; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: beathimwiththerod; cruelty; fake; fakenews; godlesscommunism; homosexualagenda; ibtz; junkscience; liberalagenda; lyingliberals; parenting; poppsychology; sloth; spanking; zot
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To: cpdiii

There was a recent study on psychological research and it found that over 70% of the presented conclusions were based on non-repeatable data.


61 posted on 09/01/2017 12:34:12 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Arthur McGowan
Physical punishment is a legitimate form of discipline. Like any other form of punishment, it can be abuised.

My father used physical discipline—say, a belt—perhaps twice during my entire childhood, and I assure you that in each case it was eminently justifiable.

One thing I'm certain of is that it's patently asinine to adopt a dogmatic stance against the efficacy of spanking. Additionally, physical discipline of children is specifically sanctioned in the Bible, and therefore "outlawing" or stigmatizing it is in overt defiance to Biblical authority.

Whether to use spanking as a form of punishment—or not—is totally up to the judgement of the child's parents, and the State has no business whatsoever is telling parents how to raise their children—unless and until there is compelling evidence of some sort of abuse occurring.

Adopting the attitude that physical discipline is illegitimate or abusive—or that it automatically produces negative outcomes versus the lack of its use—is the height of nanny-state interference in the parenting process...

62 posted on 09/01/2017 12:44:01 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Arthur McGowan

They are merely pointing out where the liberal brain is. Spank a liberal and his/her/it’s IQ goes down. Does not apply to conservatives. They don’t have their heads up their asses.


63 posted on 09/01/2017 12:44:24 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: OrangeHoof
"Hard to refute centuries of wisdom..."

It is easy for a fool to do so.

64 posted on 09/01/2017 12:47:03 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (I told you so)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

65 posted on 09/01/2017 12:47:23 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
BTW: I had a cousin who was spanked, and he became a drug addict and hanged himself.

This proves that you’re wrong.

No, it proves that you lack basic logic and completely misconstrue the concept of cause and effect.

66 posted on 09/01/2017 12:47:33 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: SoConPubbie

One doesn’t have to hit a child in order to discipline


67 posted on 09/01/2017 1:18:01 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Architect of Paradise

Precisely


68 posted on 09/01/2017 1:18:45 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Discipline must be administered with discipline????

Dumbest comment today


69 posted on 09/01/2017 1:20:43 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SoConPubbie

You presume everyone was spanked in generations gone by. False assumption


70 posted on 09/01/2017 1:22:46 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Olog-hai

The Rod the Biblw speaks of is a sign of authority not an instrument of beating. One is to use their authority and wisdom to disciple i.e. to teach or instruct


71 posted on 09/01/2017 1:25:21 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SoConPubbie

My first child, a girl, needed a very healthy diet of application of the “rod of correction” till she was about six, and got some sense. The rest of my children somehow got the hint from her and never needed the kind of discipline she received.

Number of spankings went down dramatically.


72 posted on 09/01/2017 2:10:52 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
There has been a really good study done that contradicted Stephens arguments. The study made it clear that Stephens arguments are accurate if the child is abused. Light spanking had no notable effect on a child.

I posted the study a number of times to him he totally ignores it. He was abused by his mother when he was a kid now for him all spanking is abuse.

73 posted on 09/01/2017 3:25:56 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Architect of Paradise; MHGinTN; Mark17; daniel1212
RE "The Truth About Spanking" your remark was: I’m against it. It teaches children that their parents are willing to physically hurt them. That’s bad.

Nonsense. What it teaches is that a just form of government is willing to hurt them if one will not learn to control his/her own actions. Every single human infant starts out with a determination to have one's own way, and this survival instinct must come under control.

From infancy, the child must learn that his/her inborn willingness to hurt--even kill--others in the pursuit of gaining one's own will must be curbed, and the morality of it must begin to be internalized.

And that is good, not bad.

The first instance of another superimposing their own will over that of the infant is in the matter of which of you is going to determine the feeding schedule of the infant. If the child "wins" that battle over an adult through temper tantrums, the individual's irrational unmanageable behavior starts being locked into place, and harder to overcome when the next issue crops up.

In the end, physical damage or even imprisonment or the electric chair may be the only effective way to stop that individual's oppositional defiance, employed in harming others.

Apparently, you do not wish to come to grips with this issue, understand it, and justly apply forceful correction until its moral end is achieved. I do not respect your mindset, at all.

In the Christian Bible, the book of Proverbs graciously reveals the wisdom of the All-Wise God, and nine verses of it deal with the use of the rod to govern a Hell-bent individual. The proper, timely, and determined application of the rod may save another human from a hellish life and death:

Proverbs 23:13-14 AV:

Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

You had best not continue to ignore this nugget of golden truth. It might be wise of you, and others like you, to read and digest this fine book giving the theory and methods of how to acculturate yourself and your own get, starting now, if you do not wish your username to become a laughingstock, an oxymoron for your imitators. You method does not lead to Paradise, as the Good Book shows.

The first survival trait you should cultivate in your offspring (as well as your own associates, by the way) is a healthy respect of you as a representative of the world about him/her.

74 posted on 09/01/2017 3:50:16 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I had a cousin who was spanked and he didn’t become a drug addict and hang himself.

Correlation is not causation.


75 posted on 09/01/2017 3:52:37 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: SoConPubbie
graduated as an Electrical Engineer.

Just think, if you were not spanked you could have been a Mechanical Engineer. :)

76 posted on 09/01/2017 3:55:11 AM PDT by Fzob (Let the saving love of Christ be the measure of our lives.)
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To: tumblindice

LOL, here we go!


77 posted on 09/01/2017 3:56:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: OrangeHoof

‘...the one who loves their children...”

I thought God’s grammar was better than that.


78 posted on 09/01/2017 4:00:17 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Architect of Paradise
He who spares the rod (does not discipline his child) hates his son.....

Big difference between discipline and abuse and you can bet that the antifa/BLM folks were all encouraged to do what they do w/o any adult leadership/discipline.

When necessary to correct "problems", it can be most effective.

79 posted on 09/01/2017 4:02:03 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: sargon
I regret to inform you that the best authority on raising children is not the parent, nor the prevalent culture, though it may require the interference of those about him/her, including the "government."

However, the sovereign and highest authority is The God of the Bible, in which He expresses His plan of salvation throughout it, and to ignore that authority promises an untold misery for all involved with child-rearing.

It is true, however, that God's will is vested in the parents He has chosen to bear a new soul, and interference with that plan invokes judgment on the agency instituting it.

80 posted on 09/01/2017 4:18:43 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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