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Judge Rules “Brain Dead” Jahi McMath May Not be Dead After All
Life News ^ | Sept, 7, 2017 | Wesley Smith

Posted on 09/07/2017 11:13:43 AM PDT by Morgana

This could be one of the biggest bioethics cases since Terri Schiavo.

A judge has ruled that the teenager, declared dead in California, may not be dead. From the East Bay Express story:

Jahi McMath, the Oakland teenager whose brain death case has sparked national debate, may not currently fit the criteria of death as defined by a state law written in conjunction with the medical establishment, a judge wrote in an order Tuesday.

In his ruling, Alameda County Superior Court Judge Stephen Pulido wrote that while the brain death determination in 2013 was made in accordance with medical standards, there remains a question of whether the teenager “satisfies the statutory definition of ‘dead’ under the Uniform Determination of Death Act.”

Bottom line, if she is not brain dead, then by definition, she’s alive. At the very least, there is enough doubt in this case based on Dr. Shewmon’s testimony to induce the judge to issue his ruling:

Pulido heavily cited Dr. Alan Shewmon, who concluded in a court declaration that Jahi doesn’t currently fit the criteria for brain death after reviewing 49 videos of her moving specific fingers and other extremities when given commands to do so.

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Shewmon, a professor emeritus of pediatrics and neurology at UCLA, wrote that Jahi “is a living, severely disabled young lady, who currently fulfills neither the standard diagnostic guidelines for brain death nor California’s statutory definition of death.” Shewmon also reviewed an MRI.

Full disclosure. I recently visited Jahi and her mother, along with Bobby Schindler.

That visit reinforced my view, previously written here, that this case demands a much deeper investigation than it has received heretofore, including impartial and thorough renewed medical examinations.

So I am very pleased the case is going forward.


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To: shhrubbery!
Yeah, reflexes of pain.

I didn't know that. Talk about ghoulish. They cut pre-born babies up the same way.

21 posted on 09/07/2017 1:46:48 PM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

I’m glad Oakland’s Children Hsptl was able to help your child.


22 posted on 09/07/2017 1:47:57 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: kaila

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>> “Hopefully, if you get your way and all brain dead people will be kept alive on ventilators” <<

Clearly you are a Democrat!

Nothing I said indicated anything of the sort.

Brain dead is a nonsensical term.

There are many people alive today that had flat encephalograms, and were declared “brain dead” by the quacks.
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23 posted on 09/07/2017 1:51:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

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>> “ According to the doctors” <<

If even 5% of the things doctors say were true, we’d be in much better shape.
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24 posted on 09/07/2017 1:55:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I take it you have some hidden anger toward the medical profession. That’s fine, stay away from hospitals with that attitude.
I hope you have a spare bedroom or two to house the dead people you want to save.


25 posted on 09/07/2017 1:55:39 PM PDT by kaila
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To: lee martell

Thanks, I appreciate it. I remember being at a playground with the Little Flashes once when a kid was trying to climb to the roof of a play structure. His father said “Get down off of there. I’m not spending the night at Children’s.” I told him “Yeah, I’ve been there.”


26 posted on 09/07/2017 1:57:41 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: kaila

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Do you ever have any contact with reality at all?
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27 posted on 09/07/2017 1:57:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

What a funny question. Any normal , intelligent person would think that you are the one not in contact with reality.
Where is Jahi? If she is really alive, why is she kept hidden? To keep suckers like you supporting the mother so she can get more money in a malpractice suit.


28 posted on 09/07/2017 2:02:16 PM PDT by kaila
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To: editor-surveyor

I used to have a humorous book that had the following passage:

Master, Speak to us of healing.

The Master replied thusly:

A wound can heal, and that is a miracle. A doctor can heal, too, and that is an even greater miracle.

Given the choice, and the odds, I’d rather have the wound than the doctor.


29 posted on 09/07/2017 2:06:15 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Morgana

Ping


30 posted on 09/07/2017 2:08:34 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everybody who is for abortion have already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: shhrubbery!

Sounds very gruesome


31 posted on 09/07/2017 2:09:18 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everybody who is for abortion have already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

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LOL!
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32 posted on 09/07/2017 2:09:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: kaila

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Why are you so full of hatred for life?

Do you work for Planned Barrenhood?
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33 posted on 09/07/2017 2:11:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

There are specific protocols for declaring death. Jahi was declared dead. You can put a person on a vent which breathes for them, but they are still dead. Dead is dead. Jahi is dead. Jahi is not a Terri Schiavo case. What you want is parents determining death. That does not work. You have to define what death is and follow that .
Otherwise, no one will be declared dead. They will be put on vents and allowed to rot in bed ( just like the reported smell from Jahi) People who live in fantasy land like you would want someone else to take care of all the “really dead but you don’t want to admit it dead” people. Get a grip on reality.


34 posted on 09/07/2017 2:19:02 PM PDT by kaila
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To: Grammy

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The funny thing is that the ghouls that want to “unplug” keep them plugged in, sometimes for weeks, until they can sell their organs.

And therein lies the reality WRT Jahi!

UCSF had already sold her organs, and they were furious when Jahi got moved!
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35 posted on 09/07/2017 2:21:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: kaila

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Give up Kevorkian!
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36 posted on 09/07/2017 2:22:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

This is a nice day. I am going to wash my boat and stop arguing with idiots. Bye bye. Life is too short to waste my time on zealots who have no reasoning skills.


37 posted on 09/07/2017 2:24:05 PM PDT by kaila
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To: kaila

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Truly you are a pro-death zealot devoid of reasoning skills!
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38 posted on 09/07/2017 2:27:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: shhrubbery!

OMG that is unspeakably horrible. What about the doctors who cut out the organs of those victims thrashing about on the operating table? How can these monsters sleep at night?


39 posted on 09/07/2017 2:32:21 PM PDT by tjd1454
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To: Redwood71

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It has to do only with the fact that UCSF had already sold her organs.

That is the sole reason for the court fight.


40 posted on 09/07/2017 2:40:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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