Posted on 09/22/2017 9:29:03 AM PDT by Red Badger
Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh announced Thursday that his Aunt Anne had died,
Yeah, that's what they all would say. But the images are there, and could be collected.
Thanks for your post.
Do you mean like their Apple Mac computers that can run far more software than Windows computers, including running all versions of Windows, Linux, UNIX™, and many others, often simultaneously? Although I don't do it any more, I frequently was running NINE different operating systems, including three versions of Windows, on my Mac simultaneously to be able to serve my clients. Those Apple computers?
If you have access to Netflix, then watch the movie "Whatever Happened to Monday?". Futuristic movie, where your eye is used as ID recognition to open doors. Yeah, been done in other movies, but this is a great movie. Yup, bad guy cuts out woman's eyeball to use it to access her home. I told the wife that with the iPhone X, we'll have to worry about someone chopping off your head to use it to access your stuff. Now that ought to scare you.
You probably don't even have an iPhone, sounds like BS. So what features were removed in the past on your iPhones that you don't have now? My daughter finally gave up on her Samsung phones, after numerous problems and bought an iPhone recently. Says she should have dumped the Samsung long ago for all the grief it gave her, and she loves her iPhone.
I was running into that problem on my iPhone 5s, until I upgraded iCloud and allowed pictures and stuff to go to the cloud. Costs 99 cents a month for 50GB of storage, good deal. No more memory problems with the iPhone after that.
Steve Jobs died October 5, 2011, six years ago. Apple stock was selling for an split adjusted price of $47.87 a share the day before he died. The Market Cap was $308 billion, while now it is $785 Billion. That has all been Tim Cook.
Have there been changes? Of course. But the over arching philosophy of how the devices work together and and easy to use remains the same. Once you get used to the minor changes they are logical and become second nature again.
The iPhone 8 is the same size as the iPhone 6. The iPhone X, although it has a 1.1" larger screen, is only slightly larger than the iPhone 8 (about 2 tenths of an inch in length and one tenth in width) in overall size.
There were a lot of people at the Grand Central Apple Store this morning.
Cycle your iPhone completely OFF then back on. Doing that usually solves all the problems with new OS upgrade battery problems by clearing out memory registers. I had an short term rapid battery run down after upgrading to iOS 11. I restarted my iPhone and the problem disappeared.
Besides the size, what I posted is what these heavy users of smartphones, working guys need:
“They use their smartphones to make phone calls, texts, send/receive emails and take a picture now and then. Googling a question is a priority and can be done with any smartphone. The new phones have zero advantage over their 6’s!”
Re facial recognition. About two years ago after an Android update, my wife started crying and said that all of her pictures were gone.
The pictures had auto sorted by face, family and zip codes as well as new photos by date.
Our new phones with an android 6 op system does this automatically and so does Amazon Prime photos.
Semi nice and semi scary.
What part of "It is not an image" do you fail to grasp? Or what part of "the data processor does not have access to the Secure Enclave" do you also fail to grasp? The iPhone cannot ever "collect" those data that are in the Secure Enclave" to send it to the radios in the iPhone to pass it on anywhere. It is physically not possible because the Secure Enclave is NOT CONNECTED TO THE DATA PROCESSOR. It is not on the DATA BUS. . . and the Encryption Engine processor is hardware limited to doing only specific things. Passing the contents of the Secure Enclave to the data processor is not one of the things it can do. . . it's not designed to do that.
For FIVE YEARS, the the Secure Enclave has successfully protected the fingerprint data in it from such intrusions, in fact from all attempts to gain access to that data. YOU seem to think Apple has some nefarious reason other than securing their customer's data. They do not.
Are you at all aware of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002? (SOX) I don't think you are. It provides for personal fines of up to $20 million and prison for managers and corporate officers who make demonstrably FALSE statements that would have an impact on the value of the companies they work for. Making a statement about the Secure Enclave falls under SOX I assure you that Apple's management would not make the claims they have about the data not leaving the iPhone and Apple not passing on anything in the Secure Enclave if there were ANY CHANCE AT ALL that it was false because they would be laying themselves open to criminal charges under Sarbanes-Oxley. So, no, FatherofFive, "that's (not) what they all would say." and, the images, as I told you ARE NOT THERE, and, NO, it cannot be collected.
Thanks for your post. . . even if you ignored the facts I related to you.
But when you say"the data processor does not have access to the Secure Enclave I simply don't believe that. The 'Secure enclave" is a database accessible somehow. Every database is accessible.
Yeah, I was trying to recall any thing Apple has removed over the past ten years and I can really not recall anything major at all. There are only three things they changed: First was the change from the 30 pin connector, but that was a big improvement. Another change which I didn't particularly care for was moving the power switch from the top to the side of the iPhone. . . I wish they'd move it back to the top; it was easier to find there when you wanted to reject a call and stop the ring tone. The only other thing removed was the headphone jack port. . . but they provided headphones that connected differently. No problem. Anything else???
I JUST bought myself a tablet (Fire 8), and I’m not sure I’m going to get all that much use out of it!
My family gave me one to replace my Acer tablet that died after two years, last Christmas.
#1 Use is for my Kindle books. Screen is great as good as any Kindle reader I have seen. Grand kids with I pads can’t believe how fast and easy to read the Fire Tablet is.
#2 Use is to text without a small smartphone screen or too big Chromebook. Works great with MySMS.
#3 Use is to check and mainly delete emails without using my Chromebook. I have my google mail and comcast mail accts. on the tablet.
#4 To Show pictures to family and friends again the best size versus smart phone and Chromebook.
#5 A pleasant surprise being able to print high quality pics going to my HP Cloud printer. Sometimes Google, Amazon and HP seem get into nasty situations and don’t want to print pics unless you send them to for a for fee printer. My Fire Tablet just sends great pics to my HP Google Cloud and my HP printer prints out great 8X11 pics.
#6. Great control over electronic control devices like the Nest and other electronic monitoring gear for the home, yard and personal health.
#7. Low cost if I or someone drops/breaks it or it just dies, I can replace it for a nominal cost.
#8. Its operating system seems as fast as my Chromebook which makes Windows Ten look like a slow dying turtle.
#9. With my Prime, It came with a lot of my connections ready to go or easy to set up, like my Kindle books/acct. Emails were set up and ready to get my PW. Contact lists were easily sent from my Android phone to Fire Tablet.
Well my face would go to the bottom of the list.
I don’t know how they would do that but people down load too many apps and grant them too much access.
You say you are not a "techy guy" so when techy people tell you it is NOT CONNECTED to the data processor, you should believe it when they tell you IT IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE DATA PROCESSOR. There literally is no way the processor that disconnected to cellular, WIFI, or the Bluetooth radios and uses Apps can reach the data that is in the Secure Enclave.
This is like you thinking that an unplugged TV can still be turned on, and with no cable or antenna, can still receive programing, even though it is not plugged in to anything and has no power.
That is WHY it is called the Secure Enclave, FoF. There is even a limited, dedicated processor which is the only way that memory in the Secure Enclave can be read or written to. . . and that processor is limited by HARDWARE in what it can send to the rest of the device from what is in that SECURE ENCLAVE, which is essentially a go or no go signal, or the decryption key for the 256 bit AES encrypted data on the storage device. . . and that processor has no access to apps, storage, or radios.
Then, the data is ENCRYPTED by a very secure encryption that exists only on the dedicated Processor. . . and the data is stored in a one way HASH. That means you can extract that results of that one way HASH but you cannot RECONSTRUCT the image it was built from by knowing the hash. You have to also have the key and the algorithms and that still won't help you reconstruct the original data the HASH was made from. That's why its called a "one way" hash. It's all designed so having the contents of the Secure Enclave does no good to someone who somehow DOES get those contents. Do you get it now????
The fact is that your claim that "every data base is accessible" is simply not true. You can say such a thing, but saying it does not make it true.
The FBI, using the expertise of a third-party Israeli security company, was able to break into ONE iPhone, a then three year old obsolete iPhone 5c in the San Bernardino Terrorist case, one with an earlier far less secure version the Secure Enclave called the "Encryption Engine," which lacked the dedicated processor of later iPhones, running a much less robust iOS, and that effort cost over a million dollars and taking almost six months of effort. All that to crack into just one iPhone which did not have even fingerprint protection, just four-digit passcode protection.
Same here.
I’m running a Samsung Galaxy S5 and it does everything I need and more.
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