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'He was just a guy. Something happened, he snapped' -Las Vegas shooter's brother says family is (TR)
Daily Mail ^ | October 2, 2017 | Daniel Bates

Posted on 10/02/2017 5:42:48 AM PDT by Perseverando

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To: AppyPappy

“I’ll tell you what I do know. When they raid his place, they’ll find his computer either gone or the hard drive destroyed to cover his tracks. The ONLY reason you do that is to keep from exposing any accomplices.”

I’m wondering what the toxicology tests show. Well, if the FBI doesn’t show up claiming ‘terrorism, our case, get lost’.

This is really fishy.


201 posted on 10/02/2017 7:17:06 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: robroys woman
It was a terrorist attack, by definition.

What definition are you using?

202 posted on 10/02/2017 7:17:50 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: gaijin
Yup, as far as entertainers go, this one represents Trump supporters pretty well. Flannel shirt with sleeves ripped off and all.(his kind are holding back the commie revolution)

The singer makes his connection with hardworking Americans through his songs like “Fly Over States” and “My Kinda Party.” Meanwhile, Trump has wooed the people Aldean sings for by giving their concerns about the country and the future of their families a national voice.

In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, the country music singer points to the way Trump spoke to the “common person” during his campaign against Hillary Clinton made all the difference:

“The common man is highly underestimated. I heard a lady say it on the news the other day. She's talking about Trump speaking to people who made under 60 grand a year. And she's in New York, and she says, 'To be honest, I don't even know anybody that makes under 60 grand a year.' No offense, but that's where I came from. And that's the issue. The common person out there, the everyday guy who is going to work and wanting a normal life for his family, he doesn't work on Wall Street… that guy still has a voice. And there is a lot of them out there who feel like they're forgotten about.”

Aldean explains that Trump knew how to reach out to the voters in areas outside of big cities— the places that sometimes feel ignored by saying:

“When it comes to elections, anybody just wants to feel like they're being heard, no matter who you are. You saw that in a huge way this time around. Trump, like the guy or not, he was out there busting his butt on the campaign trail, talking to these people and putting it in laymen's terms for them, listening to what they had to say. He wasn't just focusing on the big companies and the big cities. He was digging in to the heartland of America. You saw those people come out in a big way to support that because they want to feel like they have a voice too. He shocked the world with that.”

And despite having a strong opinion on why Trump won the presidency, Aldean admits that he didn't vote in this election because of a recent move to a new county.

The singer stayed away from giving a direct answer about where his vote would have gone if he did, saying, “I don't know if I'm going to cross that road with you. That's one subject I do stay away from. Politics is a no-win.”

http://ijr.com/2016/11/746278-jason-aldean-tips-hat-to-president-elect-donald-trump-the-common-man-is-highly-underestimated
203 posted on 10/02/2017 7:17:59 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: MagnoliaB
This article references something odd.......... “Paddock apparently was the manager of the apartment complex — which was set to be searched early Monday morning — FOX 5 News reported.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/stephen-paddock-suspected-las-vegas-gunman-stashed-weapons-in-room-police-say.html

The link no longer works... can you find an updated article with the same information? That seems significant.

204 posted on 10/02/2017 7:18:21 AM PDT by marron
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To: dljordan

If the info dries up, they found something inconvenient. Perhaps a connection to Islam or MS-13.


205 posted on 10/02/2017 7:19:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Perseverando

Yes, he “just snapped” enough to take four days to carry ten rifles up 32 floors, enough ammo to stop an elevator, two shooting platforms, and enough CCTVs to watch all approaches to his room.


206 posted on 10/02/2017 7:20:37 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: Mark17

Are you sure?

Cat is out of the bag now.


207 posted on 10/02/2017 7:20:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Mr.Unique

This definition:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/las-vegas-shooting-nevada-terrorism-state-law-act-police-stephen-paddock-a7978456.html


208 posted on 10/02/2017 7:20:55 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: robroys woman

Are all mass shooting acts of terrorism? It’s an important legal question; insurance claims may be denied if the venue is not covered for terrorism (which is frequently not a covered event in standard “all risks” policies). I know a little about real estate, and suspect one legitimate reason authorities think twice before assigning a terrorism attribution is that it can result in $millions in uncovered claims for the unfortunate property owner.


209 posted on 10/02/2017 7:22:29 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Mark17

Registration is a requirement for fully auto weapons. I’ve heard no talk of Paddock’s registrations. Have you?


210 posted on 10/02/2017 7:23:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Perseverando

Probably got the game plan from the Antifa playbook and bought the automatic weapons off the street in Oakland Cal.


211 posted on 10/02/2017 7:23:47 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Romulus

“Terrorism” is a word bandied about in situations that usually involves some political cause. But the thing is, a “terrorist” attack is an attack that is intended to “terrorize” more than harm.

For example, if you hate your next door neighbors and kill their dog and leave its remains on the front doorstep, that could be a form of terrorism. If you simply kill the whole family, that is not terrorism.

If you start shooting indiscriminately into a large crowd of people, fully knowing it will cause mayhem, and also knowing you will only injure or kill a tiny fraction, that is a terrorist activity that terrorizes a large group by injuring a small subset.

People get too wrapped up in the reason for the terrorism. But all that does is qualify it. There is religious terrorism and there is political terrorism, and there is plain old “like to scare the crap out of people” terrorism.

So far, this seems to be the latter.

The important thing to note is that it need not be religious OR politically motivated to be terrorism.


212 posted on 10/02/2017 7:27:46 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: nhwingut

This
Planning logistics execution
No lone wolf


213 posted on 10/02/2017 7:29:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: AppyPappy

It could also be that he gave more thought to his shooting perch. In the hotel, strategically overlooking the concert site. The fact that it was a country music concert may be a sad coincidence. Based on the limited knowledge we have at this point, we mustn’t exclude the element of random chance.


214 posted on 10/02/2017 7:29:11 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

“Are all mass shooting acts of terrorism?”

Not necessarily. Sometimes they just want to go out being famous


215 posted on 10/02/2017 7:35:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: fwdude

Is the “fully automatic” report confirmed? Are there many fully automatic weapons in criminal hands? My understanding is they’re difficult and very expensive to acquire legally. A criminal looking to buy one on the street would really need some contacts to pull this off. A man who bought the piece legally and then embarked on a shooting spree would have to be a for-real political terrorist, or else, yeah, a certified “just-snapped” nut job.


216 posted on 10/02/2017 7:35:52 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: xzins
Registration is a requirement for fully auto weapons. I’ve heard no talk of Paddock’s registrations. Have you?

Registration is a requirement, if he wanted to do it legally. I believe the chump preplanned mass murder, so getting automatic weapons legally, probably was not high on his priority list.

217 posted on 10/02/2017 7:39:29 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: robroys woman
Did you read your own link?

Police investigating the mass shooting of concert-goers at a music festival in Las Vegas have said they are not treating the incident as an act of terrorism.

But Nevada law suggests the Sunday night massacre of at least 50 people can be defined as such.

218 posted on 10/02/2017 7:41:00 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Perseverando

This was planned out. It wasn’t a sudden snap.


219 posted on 10/02/2017 7:41:32 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: ExNewsExSpook

My daughter just called and said the lefties will blame this on Trump and a reason to stop his immigration policy. “See this wasn’t a person who came here as a refugee but a home grown white guy”.


220 posted on 10/02/2017 7:42:19 AM PDT by surrey
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