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Theoretical Physicists Are Getting Closer to Explaining How NASA’s ‘Impossible’ EmDrive Works
motherboard.vice.com ^ | 10/31/17 | Giulio Prisco

Posted on 11/01/2017 12:10:53 AM PDT by LibWhacker

The EmDrive propulsion system might be able to take us to the stars, but first it must be reconciled with the laws of physics.

Giulio Prisco is a futurist, theoretical physicist, and computer scientist. He writes about science, technology, and the future. He's also a cofounder of Space Cooperative.

A tentative theoretical explanation for the mysterious, "impossible" EmDrive propulsion system was published in the Journal of Applied Physical Science International in August. First proposed by British engineer Roger Shawyer, the EmDrive is an asymmetric box that looks like a truncated cone, with a standing microwave field inside that—apparently violating known physical laws—seems able to generate thrust and propel the device.

Meanwhile, China's state media claims that the country's scientists have perfected a working EmDrive prototype and are preparing to test it in space. NASA is also funding a feasibility study for an interstellar mission powered by a related exotic propulsion method.

In September 2016, propulsion researchers gathered for a select, invitation-only workshop at an isolated retreat in Estes Park, Colorado. The proceedings and videos of the workshop, sponsored by the Space Studies Institute, are available online.

Later that year, a paper by NASA's Eagleworks team, titled "Measurement of Impulsive Thrust from a Closed Radio-Frequency Cavity in Vacuum," published in the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA)'s peer-reviewed Journal of Propulsion and Power, described promising experimental results and hinted at possible theoretical EmDrive models.

The publication of NASA's paper silenced some objections to EmDrive research based on the lack of peer-reviewed publications in top scientific journals. But a more serious debate continues, based on something far more important: the fundamental laws of physics. Some scientists believe EmDrive technology is impossible, because it doesn't seem to adhere to our current understanding of how the universe is supposed to work.

The law of conservation of momentum says there's no way electromagnetic waves bouncing inside a box can push a box forward. Unless, that is, some other physical effect carries momentum away.

Today's reaction-powered spacecraft works like this: Propellant exhaust carries momentum away and generates forward thrust. But the need to carry sufficient propellant is a strong limit for space travel, which makes long-distance space missions expensive to the point of infeasibility.

If the reaction-free EmDrive works, it would open the door for reaction-free space missions, which could reach the planets in weeks instead of months, and at a much lower cost. It could ultimately open a path to the stars. Therefore, it's not surprising that visionary engineers continue to pursue experimental and theoretical EmDrive research, despite the controversial nature of the technology.

In the lab, EmDrive researchers try to conclusively demonstrate that thrust is there. The 2016 NASA paper reports a modest thrust beyond experimental error margins. But this thrust would perform much better, especially for long-distance missions, than a higher thrust on heavier, propellant-based spaceships. In fact, according to the NASA researchers, the EmDrive would outperform other "zero propellant" propulsion systems studied to date, such as light sailing.

Theoretical scientists are trying to understand why and how EmDrive propulsion works. The NASA paper suggests a tentative explanation based on a quantum physics theory, "a nonlocal hidden-variable theory, or pilot-wave theory for short."

A new research paper by a Portuguese scientist, titled "A Possible Explanation for the Em Drive Based on a Pilot Wave Theory" is now trending among EmDrive enthusiasts in the NasaSpaceFlight forum. The paywalled paper proposes a similar model to the NASA one (here's an open access preprint you can read.)

Pilot-wave theories have been proposed since the 1920s by quantum physicists, notably Louis de Broglie and David Bohm, to make sense of the weird behavior of quantum matter. Recently, pilot-wave quantum theories have gained more popularity after it was discovered that pilot-wave quantum-like behavior can be reproduced in classical fluids and explained by classical (non-quantum) fluid dynamics. The prototype of the EmDrive. Image: Mario Solera/Flickr

It appears that fluid droplets bouncing on a vibrating fluid bath generate a pilot-wave field that, in turn, guides the motion of the droplets themselves with a striking similarity to quantum behavior. The nonlocal "spooky action at a distance," which puzzled Einstein, still needs to be invoked to explain the dynamics of the pilot-wave field.

However, the EmDrive doesn't seem very quantum: It's just a macroscopic device with good old electromagnetic microwaves inside. Therefore, there's a belief among scientists that the anomalous thrust (if, again, it's really there) should have a classical (non-quantum) explanation based on Maxwell's electromagnetism and Einstein's general relativity.

Mach's principle–the idea that local inertia is determined by distant masses and the structure of the universe at large—could be a starting point. Physicist James F. Woodward has speculated on "Mach effects," or "Woodward effects," based on the Hoyle-Narlikar theory of gravity, a Machian version of general relativity that includes "advanced waves" traveling backward in time from the distant universe.

The simplest Woodward effect, which has been proposed as a theoretical basis for EmDrive and other reactionless propulsion methods, predicts local mass fluctuations that can be harnessed for propulsion without the need for a reaction. Image: Shutterstock

"Woodward [devised] a method to use these mass fluctuations for a novel propulsion scheme: Push the mass when it is heavy and pull it back when it is lighter," explains physicist Martin Tajmar in a recent paper. Tajmar leads a breakthrough propulsion physics group at TU Dresden, focused on testing "the latest EMDrive and Mach-Effect thruster models, the two most promising revolutionary thruster concepts that are presently under investigation at various labs."

Woodward effects could open the door for other more exotic, sci-fi-like propulsion methods, hinted at in the title of Woodward's book " Making Starships and Stargates: The Science of Interstellar Transport and Absurdly Benign Wormholes."

A reactionless propulsion method based on the Woodward effect, first dubbed Mach Effect Thruster (MET) and then renamed Mach Effect Gravitational Assist (MEGA) drive, was funded by the NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC) program and is described as a "technically credible, advanced [concept] that could one day 'Change the Possible' in aerospace."

Earlier this month, the project's principal investigator Heidi Fearn gave a presentation titled "Mach Effects for In-Space Propulsion: An Interstellar Mission" at the 2017 NIAC Symposium in Denver.

Fearn's proposed interstellar mission would entail accelerating a robotic starship to 40 percent of the speed of light, decelerating it, orbiting around the recently discovered exoplanet Proxima b in the Alpha Centauri system, gathering data and finally, transmitting back to Earth within 25 years. The MEGA interstellar mission would be cheaper and at the same time more ambitious than another proposed interstellar missions, Breakthrough Starshot. Fearn emphasized that the mission's feasibility is supported by credible physics and encouraging preliminary experimental results.

"Woodward's mass fluctuation has been shown to fit perfectly into the framework of gravitational absorber theory, of the type described by Fearn, based on Hoyle and Narlikar theory using advanced waves," note the conclusions of the Estes Park workshop proceedings. The notes from the conference also indicated that many participants are persuaded that the Woodward effects could also be derived from conventional, textbook general relativity, without advanced waves.

Other scientists disagree, and the jury is still out about whether EmDrive is ultimately bullshit. Exotic propulsion research needs more accurate tests in the lab, tests in space, and theoretical studies that can be funded with small grants before we'll really know if it can help us reach the stars.

Some exotic propulsion research today is inexpensive "garage science" that doesn't require multi-billion dollar investment, and can even be self-funded. EmDrive enthusiasts can now 3D-print EmDrive parts and start doing independent experimental research.

In fact, many independent scientists participated in the Estes Park workshop. Of course, some critics take advantage of the DIY nature of some of these experiments to deny the scientific value of the research. But in 1905 a young independent "amateur scientist," stealing time from his patent office day job, wrote three papers that changed the course of physics. His name was Albert Einstein.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: electrogravitics; electromagneticdrive; emdrive; impossible; nasa; physicists; rogershawyer; theoretical
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1 posted on 11/01/2017 12:10:53 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

We are not going to the stars considering the distances involved. Mars, yes. Flybyes to Jupiter and Saturn. Probably. Neptune, Pluto (Yes, I’m old school), Uranus. No reason to go there. Satellites have done the job this year.

Venus - too hot. Mercury - Way to hot.

Moons around the planets. Some, yes. Some are dangerous.

This all assumes that mankind is still around in the near future. With No. Korea and Iran still unleashed, I’m not taking any bets.


2 posted on 11/01/2017 12:24:09 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: LibWhacker

for later...


3 posted on 11/01/2017 12:44:19 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://fakehatecrimes.org/ - List of fake hate crimes against traditional/conservative Americans)
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To: LibWhacker

Whether it works or not it won’t let us reach the stars. It might get us to Mars.

Well, it will let us reach the stars if it works, but not in an efficient time span.

Personally I don’t believe any human that will ever exist will feel the light of an alien star on their skin.


4 posted on 11/01/2017 12:48:40 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

The way progress works, once we can cost-effectively mine the resources of the asteroid belt, it will create demand for technology to explore the Oort cometary region. Mastery of that stage will create technology for the next.


5 posted on 11/01/2017 1:24:49 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: LibWhacker

Thanks for posting. (In)credible science.


6 posted on 11/01/2017 1:38:26 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: LibWhacker

I’ve been following the EM drive for years and the only successful tests registered thrust below the margin for measurement error. It’s not real.


7 posted on 11/01/2017 1:38:38 AM PDT by JohnyBoy (We should forgive communists, but not before they are hanged.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

yep..as soon as the cost vs return maths work out, the world will change and fast. we are on the cusp of a change i think. we need the tech to remotely mine and return material at a price point that gives a return.

the new companies springing up will move space away from a govt run adventure to a profitable business. to be fair to the US government, the lack of funding to NASA has created these businesses. by dropping shuttles etc, they have created space for companies to thrive and push.

on the EM drive, at some point someone will build it and prove it works or doesnt. it seems kinda unbelievable to me but up until recently so was landing a rocket on a ship...


8 posted on 11/01/2017 1:52:59 AM PDT by Irishguy
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To: JohnyBoy

Reminds me of E-CAT from a few years back.


9 posted on 11/01/2017 1:57:45 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: JohnyBoy
It’s not real.

Agreed.

For a "science", it seems to have an abundance of naming and dubbing, re-naming and re-dubbing of effects and devices.

10 posted on 11/01/2017 2:32:47 AM PDT by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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To: LibWhacker

I thought the effect was well understood.

The effect appears to be the result of enthalpy conservation in a moving frame of reference.

In a vortex, the outer edges of the system moves at a higher velocity than at the axis.

In an EmDrive I would expect that radiation emitted from the wide end of the cone to transfer more kinetic energy from radiation pressure than the radiation emitted from the narrow end of the cone.


11 posted on 11/01/2017 2:33:32 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: LibWhacker

Bookmark.


12 posted on 11/01/2017 3:00:50 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

What do the Starship Enterprise and toilet paper have in common? The both search for Klingons around Uranus!


13 posted on 11/01/2017 3:41:44 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: LibWhacker

Back in the day I had a D&D Spelljammer ship that had a similar means of propulsion.

Magic from my youth becomes science of today.


14 posted on 11/01/2017 3:51:11 AM PDT by themidnightskulker (And then the thread dies... peacefully, in it's sleep....)
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To: LibWhacker
the mysterious, "impossible" EmDrive propulsion system

Is it impossible or just highly improbable? Maybe a cup of really hot tea?

15 posted on 11/01/2017 4:01:41 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: LibWhacker

400 years ago out-of-control European explorers violated he rights of indigenous America. Now FReepers are excited to violate the rights of rocks and minerals on new frontiers. :)


16 posted on 11/01/2017 4:26:30 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: SpaceBar
Reminds me of E-CAT from a few years back.

Been ten years from commercial applications for 20 or 30 years now?

17 posted on 11/01/2017 4:27:51 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (If we're going to look at nature to justify our actions, then I say let's start flinging poop around)
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To: HonorInPa

Get it right.

They both WIPEOUT Klingons around Uranus.


18 posted on 11/01/2017 4:35:53 AM PDT by mindburglar
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To: LibWhacker
Forget the "EM Drive." What we need is the "Infinite Improbability Drive!"

Mark

19 posted on 11/01/2017 4:38:01 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: GOPJ

The article tells us nothing. No new information is contained in it. We don’t know if this ‘drive’ works or not.


20 posted on 11/01/2017 4:42:32 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Leftism is an elaborate system for hiding shame behind a cheap mash of virtue. Klavan.)
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