Posted on 11/02/2017 4:57:57 AM PDT by Elderberry
It is well known that due to some .223 rifles having too slow barrel rifling twist rates (such as 1:11, or even 1:12) when ammunition having too long, and heavier than average .223 (such as 90 grain, rather than typical 55 grain projectile) can result in key-holing.
The magazines turned win with the LE rifles were lacking all together 6 to 12 rounds from what they would have been had all three 25 round capacity magazines been loaded with 25 rounds, or even 23 rounds.
There's been some mention of persons claiming to have witnessed LEO's picking up a few spent case, without having put those in evidence bags. There was report of even one Hornady case along with the Federal Premium cases. That one Hornady could have been a key-holer, since Hornady does load 90 grain, or even the more commonly encountered 77 grain Sierra Match King in .223/5.56 x 45 Nato rounds -- while as I understand it, in 'Federal' brand, in their so-called "Premium" line (which most of the .223 cases turned in to laboratory for analysis were) does not have anything heavier than 60 grain in .223.
I don't know any drug dealers.
I don't necessarily "hate cops" but I DO hate LIARS. And specially when they are in positions of power over others and deliberately fabricate evidence (or plant drugs on a suspect) or else cover up their own crimes and the crimes of other officers that they know damned good and well are crimes.
There are many crimes and frauds perpetrated by LEO's. That much is a fact. Pointing that out doesn't make me a drug user, or else a cop hater.
Ha! More lazy-azz One Trick Pony response. That's the best you've got? Your sure are awfully shallow. You sound just like a PIG, to me too! The reasoning is same-same.
You were wrong when you said that the police shot only those who were themselves shooting others. Evidence presented in court proves that...
lol. You don't like being called out for being a FED huh?
Use your connections. Find where I'm at. Come and get some, coward. Bring it. I'll smell it when you're still around the corner...
In the meantime though, do tell us who the "convicted felons" around here are..and don't forget to tell us your old freep-name. Since you won't -- that's a small item of evidence towards verification of the strong possibility that you are indeed some form of LE.
I just thought everyone should know.
BUT -- you did refer to a vague many as "druggies".
Here's (in part) what you said;
That tends towards labeling anyone, and most everyone who has expressed opinions ranging from dismay, to more strenuously expressed disdain for the McLennan County DA's choice to arrest and seek indictments for all defendants using identically worded, fill-in-the-blank-with-a-name charges as themselves being "druggies".
But you try to wiggle out of it by saying
Freepname. tell the forum what was your previous freepname
Job well done
Ref all your “posts”: Time to get off the speed and back on the meds
Yep, you sure do talk and reason a whole lot like a cop.
If you're not one of those (a LEO) you're just a rude, internet tough-guy chickenshit.
I proved you wrong. Of course you'll turn to insults, 'cuz that's all you've got -- and you still owe the forum here (not only me, but EVERYBODY here) one thing;
What was your previous freepname.
Lacking supplying that serves to prove that you are in fact a LEO of some type (even if a "lawyer" for a LE Agency), and lie to everyone on your own homepage. Lie about yourself that is. And why shouldn't you? You casually tell lies about most anything else. That's why I hate your stinking, lying guts.
Capiche?
Now, now, now... temper tantrums are not good for people in your “position.”
“Brilliant logic, just brilliant.”
LEOs should not have been there and just let the drug-dealing, murdering motorcycle gangs shoot it out.”
That’s a reach. It seems like the local law set up the shooting scenario to add to their creditials. I noticed on the local news one of the police shooters had a nice new sniper badge on his vest. Really!? These cops take pride in killing US citizens?
And what would that be?
No "tantrum" in myself telling you that I hate your lying guts. Just the facts, jack -- including the central, most pertinent fact that you are a liar. That part cannot be disputed.
But "not good" for one's own position? ---that's more for you.
Try to not project so much. It's often a 'tell', and can impart information that you'd be better off not revealing confirming.
It's part of the pattern though. When a mind-game playing lying leo can't get his way with intimidating people he thinks beneath himself, he searches for weapons to use against anyone who refuses to back down. Lying accusations begin to flow...while he seeks justification for further assaults upon those whom he views as beneath his self-appraised, "highly vaunted" self...
In this instance, for a moment there while casting around for something to hurl at me, all you had was memory of a few of your own past 'tantrums' (being "not good" for persons in your own position) so you tried to project that onto me.
Unlike yourself, I am a free man, owing none, dependent on none (to much speak of) and answering to no one.
You've continued to fail telling us who it is around here that is as you said, a convicted felon.
You also failed telling us how you would know such things...if in fact such would be true.
If that's not it, and you truly did not know (or have some way of finding out & knowing) who around here is, or else is not a "convicted felon" ---then you were just making stuff up, telling lies, creating those to use as crude insult.
You've also failed to tell the forum members here what you previous freepname was.
When are you going to shoot straight with us? You can't. You can't shoot straight 'cuz your weapons are crooked.
Looks like you have him pegged for the low-life, lying scum that he is! Thanks for doing the hard work for those of us who believe in true justice.
Respectfully, the motorcycle gangs set up the meet, they brought more than 100 guns, they were the first to brandish their guns, they were the first to shoot. What would you have the cops do, not been there, and not fire at the active shooters?
No, I don’t think they take pride at killing US citizens. I killed a number of men in war, and never took pride in it. As far as having sniper skills, with the dangers they, and we now face, I want LEOs to have all the skills and training they can get.
You hate me? An old, sweet, lovable, conservative American Grandfather? Hating me is like hating apply pie and the flag!
Every time I read your rambling blather tantrums, I’m reminded of some old advice you should take to heart: “is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”
Seriously, for your own good, and the safety of those near you, get some professional help.
Aw shaddup. Stop with the phony act. It's just more lie-lie-lie. Everything about you is a lie.
In which case I'd be wrong about the other guesses.
As for the wider subject matter, I'm not ready to buy into the notion that Waco PD, right down to street officer level were fully on-board with some kind of set-up "trap" (as in deliberate and hoped-for "shooting gallery") although I wouldn't put it past the FEDS to have been hoping enough of something like that would take place so they could obtain Federal wiretap warrants, either to use from there forwards, or to use and to cover for past illicit wire-tapping.
The wiretapping (that did eventually come to pass -- warrants were obtained for that purpose in the aftermath of the Twin Peaks incident) would help provide cover for undercover agents and informants too.
The Feds think of these kind of things, and plan on how to make it happen. According to those who claim to be in-the-know (like 'Aging Rebel') the Feds have done it before -- setting one MC against another in order to take down one or both. It made them all wet in their panties when they thought they'd be able to take the Mongols's name away from that MC. The Feds lost that fight, in Federal Court. The name itself is not illegal, even if there be some Mongols (and other MC's members) who are bad actors -- not the kind I'd chose to be associated with.
The testimony coming out of Witherspoon's Twitter feed more than suggests that the Waco PD did know about the potential for fights, and had talked about allowing fights to be 'fought out' according to a rookie officer --Nikki something or another...
It's like they (the PD -- at least the majority of them?) did not fully expect gunfire, although had contemplated that possibility too -- as they would have had to. I myself read about the meeting, and that LE Agencies were "expecting trouble" in online Fort Worth Star-Telegram about 10 to 12 days before it happened. I had thought about going -- and staying back, just watching, and just watching the cops in particular because there was something about that published notice that made me think -- hold on here -- there's something, and undercurrent here -- somebody's got a plan -- what is it?
But as it turned out, I semi-spaced it out, and forgot until waking up late on that Sunday, realizing at once when I awoke that I would not make it in time unless I left right then -- like right after taking a morning wizz and zipping up my pants going out the door...
So, I did not go. Later that day, when the news hit the internet -- I was mad at myself for having not followed up on what I'd intended to do. You can bet your ass I was not planing on taking any firearms. I was thinking I'd park some distance away, but not so far I could not see how law enforcement arrayed themselves, and conducted themselves.
There would be no reason for me to keep too much focus on the bikers. The article I'd happened across mentioned there would be surveillance cameras set up in the parking lot nearby to the Twin Peaks, and I had figured the police would have dashboard cameras going, and who knows what all else.
Speaking of majorities; looking at the majority of the people there running away when the shooting started suggests to me that a larger number of bikers of either of the two largest MC's did not fully expect (nor were desiring) fights to happen, and did not expect shootings more particularly ---than there were of those who jumped in when fighting broke out.
Even for those who did join in after the first blows were exchanged -- when they saw (or even just thought that they perceived) their "brothers" were being assaulted were honor-bound to render assistance.
Does that make them as criminal as McLennan County DA's Office prefers to portray events being? I do not think so.
Everyone is still an individual actor. It can't be conspiracy unless there was a plan ahead of time -- a plan for some kind of crime to be committed. If in exception to that qualification appeal is made to "by their actions" it may be assumed there was conspiracy (even among actors not known to one another, but sort-of picking it up on the fly, agreeing to working in concert at criminal activity when they saw one another and recognized 'gang' markings) there would still need to be recognition among various actors that what they were doing was a crime (for it to be at that point "conspiracy").
What of the talk of their having been talk among individuals on either side of this deadly dust-up of working out and agreeing to a form of "peace" between Cossacks and Bandidos? Shouldn't that count for something -- specially if it's true that Waco PD played a role in encouraging the local Cossack chapter president to attend the COC&I meeting?
The video evidence shows that man and some high ranking Bandidos shaking hands, and Bandidos and loosely affiliated MC club members walking around freely, nobody hassling anyone else.
And then, in comes the group from Dallas.
I can hardly be called a "jailhouse lawyer" for saying this, or else called a druggie who had drug dealers for friends, not unless Amamda Dillon is a jailhouse lawyer who is a druggie and has drug dealers for friends.
Then again, nobody has ever delivered two "bricks" of cocaine to my custody (or eles to the custody of an "Office" I was ranking member of) and have that mysteriously turn into only one kilo package of coke.
Amanda, you boxum bleachy-blond you, does anyone in your office have a nose like Billy Jeff Clin-toon?
Just where did the rest of that coke go?
Neither of those have ever lied to me. Nor have they slithered around changing the subject, accussing me of being "on drugs" right after I busted them in one of their latest shoot-from-the-lip falsehoods.
I hate your lying guts because you are a liar, right down to the ugly bones of the middling parts of your carcass that will rot in hell.
I don't even have to tell you to go there. You're well on the way but are so full of yourself (that would be your lying self) that you don't_even_notice.
Do you think God in Heaven loves the little lies you tell? If anything, He hates them more than I do. And that's saying something.
For you to hate someone just because you can’t defeat their logic, and they caught you supporting a bunch of drug dealing, murdering motorcycle scum... as I said, for the safety of those around you, and yourself, you do need professional help.
Don’t worry. I will pray for you.
PS, hating me.... was it something I said? :)
So why do you hate me then? Aha! That must be it. This is another of those projection thingies you've got going on...
Obviously you must, since you keep telling lies to yourself (most of all?) about me (to match up with the rest of the lazy-sloppy pig broadbrushing that's your shtick).
Speaking of yourself telling lies, this part about yourself having presented some sort of logic that I allegedly could not defeat? That's laughable, and for this thread is absolutely 180° out of whack. But you believe that sort of lie you tell yourself? You're one sick little piggie.
On top of being a liar, you are intellectually speaking, a coward. It fits with the "lazy" and "sloppy" approach you've been demonstrating towards this subject matter.
If I've been doing such a thing, then by the same [ahem] logic Judge Johnson must have been supporting those whom you've been indiscriminately labeling "drug dealing scum" (and worse) when he agreed that Broden did have a point, and recused himself.
Perhaps Abelino Reyna is a supporter of criminals too, when he filed with the Court his own request to recuse himself (but then again Reyna was arguably ducking much worse coming his way, when he finally, after all this time, folded his tent and requested that he be recused from putting Clendennen on trial).
Wonderful. You run around telling lies and tempting people, then try to point to some error when you get a reaction. You are truly chickenshit. I've stepped on better.
If all there was between myself and trouble was yourself "praying for me" then all hope would be vanquished. The Lord will not hear prayers of lying hypocrites such as yourself.
Why don't you just admit it? You are like many other LEO's, and do not believe in God.
It's obvious to me that you are not acquainted with Him -- not enough for it to have converted you from worshiping your own self image.
You're just dying to meet me, ain't ya' piggy? Come and get it, if you think you can. You may reach out -- but you'll miss. There's nothing here to hit, nothing to grab on to...
You're soooo triggered and just cannot leave this be. Was it something I said, little piggy? This thread's title had you come a runnin'. Have you no idea how transparent you are..?
I knew it would "trigger" you, because it goes towards pulling Federal level piggies' covers.
The game is being exposed. You don't like that. Would like to even kill me for daring stand up to you, huh? Most of you guys are all alike. Power-tripping, murderous cowards.
50 years ago, we pitied the Village Idiot
20 years ago, TV put Village Idiots on TV for Sound Bites
Now, you have an internet connection and are posting here.
The reality is, you are nothing but a big crybaby who is keeps having temper tantrums because the people of the State of Texas are going to put his drug-dealing, murdering, motorcycle gang scum buddies in prison for a long time.
I don’t hate you. I pity you for the turmoil your thought process must put you through every day. It’s too bad you drag everyone around you through your own psychic Hell with you.
You don’t have to live like this. Get some professional help.
Awesome rants brother! Thanks for taking the time to sniff out the rat.
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