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Leaked Mormon church document claims that masturbation turns you gay
DAILY MAIL UK ^ | Dec. 15, 2017 | Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com

Posted on 12/15/2017 11:51:58 AM PST by Morgana

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To: Nifster
Roman Catholic theology, or doctrine - not Roman.

I don't think it's a secret, as the Catholic Church has had catechisms all along:

The history of catechisms in the Catholic Church goes back to the very earliest days of
the Church. There is a document called the Didache, which sets out in a rather systematic
way the beliefs, practices, and moral imperatives of the early Christians. The Didache
dates from the end of the first century, and so, it is an extraordinarily ancient type of
catechetical document.


http://www.ewtn.com/library/CATECHSM/NCOFCC.HTM
61 posted on 12/15/2017 3:03:09 PM PST by jobim
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To: fungoking
It's right there in the heretofore unpublished "Book of Mitt the Moronic", Chapter 99, verse 45:

       "Wankers become woofters."

62 posted on 12/15/2017 3:24:43 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: Morgana; teppe; Normandy; StormPrepper
The handbook for church leaders, simply titled 'Homosexuality', was published in 1981 and leaked on Wednesday by the Las Vegas-based transparency group MormonLeaks.

LEAKED???

What the heck have I been doing; lo these many years??


What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?
 

 

"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65


"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
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Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196


"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.


"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965


"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155


"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

https://exploringmormonism.com/boyd-k-packer-and-a-whole-new-sin/


"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982

 

63 posted on 12/15/2017 3:27:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana

Well; that just Depends...

Whiz kids come to mind.


64 posted on 12/15/2017 3:29:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jobim
For certain what it does is remove sanctifying grace from one’s soul, thereby blocking one’s salvation.

Yeah!

I remember that; from somewhere...

65 posted on 12/15/2017 3:32:01 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

https://youtu.be/oi68hPMinAI


66 posted on 12/15/2017 3:38:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock
Don’t you have a copy of the Mormon rules?

Which topic?

There are SO many; you know...

67 posted on 12/15/2017 3:39:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana

No; his seeing eye DOG would have a seeing eye dog!!


68 posted on 12/15/2017 3:39:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teeman8r
masturbation is like a fifty cents..

WHAT??!!??

That's the going price for a dead kitty these days??

69 posted on 12/15/2017 3:41:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teeman8r
... my fear isa that when i get to the pearly gates and meet saint peter,

Where did this crazy theory about Peter originate; anyway?

The BIBLE sure says NOTHING about it!


Revelation 21:25
On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.

70 posted on 12/15/2017 3:43:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teeman8r
masturbation is like a fifty cents..


71 posted on 12/15/2017 3:43:39 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Redwood71

No.

Because when you switch hands; you can gain a stroke.


72 posted on 12/15/2017 3:44:51 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jobim
Our Creator gave us the sexual arena for the sole purpose for which He intended.

And the mouth is for eating food for sustenance only.

73 posted on 12/15/2017 3:47:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana
Why is someone trying to trash the Mormon Church?

Well...


 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 

Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

74 posted on 12/15/2017 3:49:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana
Why is someone trying to trash the Mormon Church?

Well...


1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
 
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
 
 
 
2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
 
 Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 
 
Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
 
 
 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 

75 posted on 12/15/2017 3:53:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana
They believe both are wrong so why is someone trying to take them down?

Well; if false doctrine and false prophets don't faze you; what would?

76 posted on 12/15/2017 3:54:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

Do Mormons soil the Holy drawers?

I thought the drawers kept Eddie and the boys in check

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGXJ1S0ztgs


77 posted on 12/15/2017 3:57:09 PM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Gamecock

Holy Baloney .. Margret and Joanie...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrL_PWYGar0


78 posted on 12/15/2017 4:06:06 PM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Elsie
I catch your sarcasm. But, yes, God could have provided both of these drives without a
pleasure-component, but the fact that He did is evidence of His gratuitous love for us.

But as with gluttony, the sex drive, much more profoundly, misused, is the road to ruin.
79 posted on 12/15/2017 4:35:05 PM PST by jobim
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To: jobim

I am glad you are so confident in your belief.


80 posted on 12/15/2017 5:01:15 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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