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The Truth About Those 'Alien Alloys' in The NY Times UFO Story
https://www.space.com/39187-alien-alloys.html ^ | December 21, 2017 09:37pm ET | Rafi Letzter, Live Science Staff Writer

Posted on 12/23/2017 11:49:18 AM PST by BenLurkin

"I don't think it's plausible that there's any alloys that we can't identify," Richard Sachleben, a retired chemist and member of the American Chemical Society's panel of experts, told Live Science....

Alloys are mixtures of different kinds of elemental metals. They're very common — in fact, Sachleben said, they're more common on Earth than pure elemental metals are — and very well understood. Brass is an alloy. So is steel. Even most naturally occurring gold on Earth is an alloy made up of elemental gold mixed with other metals, like silver or copper.

"There are databases of all known phases [of metal], including alloys," May Nyman, a professor in the Oregon State University Department of Chemistry, told Live Science. Those databases include straightforward techniques for identifying metal alloys.

If an unknown alloy appeared, Nyman said it would be relatively simple to figure out what it was made of. For crystalline alloys — those in which the mixture of atoms forms an ordered structure — researchers use a technique called X-ray diffraction, Nyman said.

"The X-ray's wavelength is about the same size as the distance between the atoms [of crystalline alloys]," Nyman said, "so that means when the X-rays go into a well-ordered material, they diffract [change shape and intensity] … and from that diffraction [pattern] you can get information that tells you the distance between the atoms, what the atoms are, and how well-ordered the atoms are. It tells you all about the arrangement of your atoms."

With noncrystalline, amorphous alloys, the process is a bit different, but not by much.

(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...


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To: Joe 6-pack

https://makezine.com/2012/01/17/transparent-aluminum/


21 posted on 12/23/2017 1:07:05 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
That is the purview of Captain Peter “Wrong-way” Peachfuzz who flew a whole mountain of Upsidaisyum long before the flying mountains in James Cameron’s Avatar,


22 posted on 12/23/2017 1:07:37 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: crosdaddy

are you from the past?
2D carbon based systems have been studied for years as the perfect conductor.
Graphene can be both conductive and non-condutive depending on electronic conformation (s,p,d) which makes it a very good candidate for ultrathin (as in a atom thick, one Angstrom) nanosize gates (the building block of computing).

computing is growing at a logarithmic rate.


23 posted on 12/23/2017 1:11:13 PM PST by frechy_le_pleutre
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To: BenLurkin

The article takes an idiotically simple view of metallurgy by ignoring that the processing and arrangement of elemental metals can drastically affect the behavior of alloys. The reporter was likely sent out to solicit disparaging views from experts and got what was instructed.


24 posted on 12/23/2017 1:12:57 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Jamestown1630

Even rich people like $22 million.


25 posted on 12/23/2017 1:21:48 PM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yabbut, it sounds so cool to the liberal idiots that read the NYT.


26 posted on 12/23/2017 1:25:11 PM PST by doorgunner69 (No video seems to happen a lot when they shoot somebody..........)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Show me some transparent aluminum and I’ll believe it.

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That we've got.


27 posted on 12/23/2017 1:33:47 PM PST by Flick Lives (https://goo.gl/GxGKQh)
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To: BenLurkin

Speaking of hiding the remote; I have Xfinity Triple Play, which means I had to get the fancy new DVR. Fine. Then in the mail came a vocal remote you just TALK to. Oh no ya’ don’t! I don’t want anything listening to ME. I buried it, in the packaging, in the bottom of the TV stand, behind my DVDs, etc.


28 posted on 12/23/2017 1:35:18 PM PST by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Like aluminum oxynitride?

http://www.tssbulletproof.com/optically-clear-aluminum-provides-bulletproof-protection/

29 posted on 12/23/2017 1:51:39 PM PST by pfflier
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To: BenLurkin
Also, there is a wealth of intermetallic compounds (products of actual chemical reactions between metals) to be explored.

Some are detrimental in specific applications -- like the decades-known Au5AL2 intermetallic reaction (aka "Purple Plague") that cause failures of bonds between gold wires and aluminum IC metallization...

That doesn't mean that it (or other stoichometric ratio compositions) could not be useful for other purposes...

30 posted on 12/23/2017 2:19:43 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

... and also, the element of surprise!


31 posted on 12/23/2017 2:58:35 PM PST by Doctor DNA
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To: BenLurkin

Adamantium?

Vibranium?

Uru?


32 posted on 12/23/2017 3:15:36 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyonse's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Rockingham

E.G., elemental carbon, common or diamond.


33 posted on 12/23/2017 3:17:42 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyonse's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: YogicCowboy

Illudium Phosdex, the Shaving Cream Atom.

http://www.supercartoons.net/cartoon/656/duck-dodgers-in-the-24th-century.html


34 posted on 12/23/2017 9:24:47 PM PST by Go_Raiders
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To: BenLurkin

Gorp doesn’t occur naturally in nature either - takes special blending skills....


35 posted on 12/24/2017 3:43:17 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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To: BenLurkin
RE our recent discussion of allotropes, etc., here's yet another carbon form with almost-unbelievable properties:

"Diamene" -- 'Wonder material' that is as flexible as tin foil but becomes harder than a diamond when it's hit by a bullet could lead to ultra-light body armour

Two (no more, no less) layers of graphene together can exceed the hardness and strength of diamond when stressed:

As I said, we now understand the elements of the periodic table fairly well. Now, the materials science door is opening into a whole new world of nano and micro-scale elemental structures.

Next? Products of reactions between nanostructures...?

We've come a long way in the last century. There's no telling where a culture with a few millennia of a head start might be in their knowledge and applications of materials...

36 posted on 12/24/2017 4:49:21 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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To: TXnMA

This must be what Galadriel gave Frodo.


37 posted on 12/24/2017 4:50:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: TXnMA

This must be what Galadriel gave Frodo.


38 posted on 12/24/2017 4:50:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I liked this quote at the end: “As for whether there’s an explanation at least for the metals themselves, Sachleben said: “There’s not as many mysteries in science as people like to think. It’s not like we know everything — we don’t know everything. But most things we know enough about to know what we don’t know.”

I think this Sachleben should be nominated for the double-speak award, for 2018. I think he’d win too.


39 posted on 12/24/2017 5:53:12 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

“Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.”


40 posted on 12/24/2017 6:21:55 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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