Posted on 12/26/2017 7:31:14 AM PST by BenLurkin
>>Try that ADM propaganda somewhere else.
“ADM propoganda” LOL.
That why the US Military bothered to develop the MRE instead of just feeding troops a water bag and a stick of butter?
Show me a documented case of someone dying from fasting other than doing something stupid like drinking excessive quantities of water or having underlying health issues that they actually died from.
“That why the US Military bothered to develop the MRE instead of just feeding troops a water bag and a stick of butter?”
You’re really sounding silly defending the SAME PEOPLE who have made us the MOST UNHEALTHY COUNTRY in the world.
Next thing you’ll be defending the FOOD PYRAMID. LOL!!!
Sorry, I assumed you read your own post. See 60, which states oxaloacetate is also derived from amino acids in protein.
There's nothing wrong with high carbs as long as they are burned.
For the morbidly obese population, OTOH...
"Pemmican - The Ultimate Survival Food"
What kind of man gives cigarettes to TREES?
Always entertaining watching the "survivalist" cash-cows wheeze their way from the parking lot to the firing line.
Meanwhile, my Italian and Russian ladies are probably a bit more tuned in to the "ultimate survival" menu...
Bzzzz.
>>oxaloacetate is also derived from amino acids in protein.
Protein which would come from WHERE in an individual on a water fast?
“the primary hypothesis of the study was that excessive consumption of hypotonic fluids is associated with hyponatremia in marathon runners. ... Both water and a sports drink containing electrolytes were offered at each milepost, and runners were asked to estimate the proportion of their intake from each.”
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa043901
Did they?
Bob says — The American Military made have made us the MOST UNHEALTHY COUNTRY in the world.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3616981/posts?page=83#83
LOL.
Well Matthew - what do you and your deplorably unfit cohorts have to say for yourselves!?
Gee Bob, maybe the reason ADM and Co. have turned the American McSheeple into cash-cows MIGHT have something to do with the sort of ignorance you’ve put on display here by asserting that:
“starvation happens when you run out of usable fat...then your body will start eating muscle.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3616981/posts?page=59#59
Oxaloacetate is required to metabolize fat.
In a water-fasting individual, oxaloacetate would come from two sources:
1. Glycogen (carbohydrate)
2. Protein
What would the source of protein be in an individual who has depleted their glycogen stores?
Well, then edify us.
Glycogen is a complex glucose polymer found in a variety of tissues, including brain, where it is localized primarily in astrocytes. The small quantity found in brain compared to e.g., liver has led to the understanding that brain glycogen is merely used during hypoglycemia or ischemia.Mar 2, 2012
>So Glycogen isn’t an essential carbohydrate for the brain - You tested that assertion... how?
Glycogen is produced from muscle tissue as well. You don’t need to consume carbs to live.
>The human body will ALWAYS consume fat first. It does not metabolize the body’e muscle until all the fat is gone.
Not correct. The body has a set limit of how much fat it can consume in a given time period. If you’re expending calories at a rate greater than that then you will be consuming muscle mass. However, muscle is one of the easiest things for your body to rebuild and it does rebuild it daily, as long as you get enough protein.
There’s been a bunch of studied cases of people who lost weight by not eating at all 6+ months. As long as you get electrolytes and vitamins it’s safe. If you don’t, then you will screw your organs up. I wouldn’t do it long term without working with a doctor.
Honestly, if you want to lose weight quickly there are 2 pretty good options: Intermediate fasting (only consume food in 1 or 2 meals a day, no snacking) and a low carb diet like Keto.
"In prolonged starvation, gluconeogenesis provides the glucose oxidised by the brain. The major substrates for gluconeogenesis are amino acids derived from skeletal muscle protein breakdown. Circulating ketone body concentrations rise during prolonged starvation."
I’m done here. But will thank you for showing the sheer stupidity and abject arrogance of the nutritionist community.
So enjoy the holidays!
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